Honda TV commercial comparing HCH to Prius

priusenvy · 09-17-2007, 02:51 AM

No comments on this (new?) commercial where the HCH is compared to the Prius? I believe the claimed advantages were:

1) HCH has more legroom
2) HCH has more headroom
3) HCH has $2100 fed tax credit, Prius has $0

silver-machine · 09-17-2007, 05:31 AM

not seen those ads.

But Toyota are running a very classy campaign for the prius here is the UK at the moment stressing the fuel ecnomy, clean air and smoothness.

The 4 page ad for the Prius in the 13 September New Scientist was excellent - talk about knowing their market !

rigormortis · 09-17-2007, 05:51 AM

isnt it true that the HCH does not have folding rear seats?

catgic · 09-17-2007, 06:36 AM

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JimboK · 09-17-2007, 07:41 AM

More headroom? Maybe. But the Prius' headroom is more than enough for this 6-foot 4-incher.

More legroom? For the front, ditto. For the rear, no way. That's one (small) reason I chose the Prius over the HCH. My tall teenagers would have been rather cramped in the Honda.

patsparks · 09-17-2007, 08:05 AM

Did the ad point out that the reason Toyota Prius didn't qualify for the $2100 tax credit while Honda's Civic did was because the Prius has been so successful it has passed the sales volume cutoff?
I think they must be refering to front legroom and rear headroom. I think Prius has enough headroom I could wear a hat, not a cap but a full hat.
(I wouldn't wear a hat while driving, I believe that is the international symbol for mobile road block.)
Leg room in the back is bigger than any car I can think of!

mxvet · 09-17-2007, 08:27 AM

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isnt it true that the HCH does not have folding rear seats?
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True, only real storage is in the trunk.

PriuStorm · 09-17-2007, 10:30 AM

We didn't go with the HCH for several things, but primarily because the rear seat does not fold like our current Accord does. I love the 60/40 split of the Prius. Also, when I test drove both cars, I specifically sat in the rear seat behind the driver's seat after I had adjusted the seat to my position (I like the driver's seat quite far back) and I was pleasantly surprised at how much leg room I had in the Prius compared to both our current Accord and the HCH. Third, I hit my head on the HCH when I sat down into the back seat... I quickly realized that the shape of the body/roof vs. the Prius would enable this to happen repeatedly (seems like it tucks down sooner. It really was no comparison... the Prius won hands down, especially when you consider the stealth mode!

dogfriend · 09-17-2007, 11:09 AM

No way does the HCH (Civic) have more headroom than the Prius. I tried to sit in one last summer - I couldn't fit in the car and I couldn't see out the windshield.

The Prius just barely has enough headroom for me. My hair touches the headliner.

**TonyPSchaefer** · 09-17-2007, 12:15 PM

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Did the ad point out that the reason Toyota Prius didn't qualify for the $2100 tax credit while Honda's Civic did was because the Prius has been so successful it has passed the sales volume cutoff?[/b]

That's exactly what I thought as soon as I read that.
And that's the beauty of marketing: they are able to tell half-truths without lying. In a court of law, that line would be viewed as not "the whole truth." But when dealing with stats and marketing, you can mention only part of the truth and stand behind it like a riot shield, shooting your rubber bullets at the competition. In every day business, there's always someone suggesting, "just don't mention that part."

09-17-2007, 08:05 AM	#6
patsparks An Aussie perspective Join Date: Jul 2007 Location: Adelaide South Australia Posts: 9,214 My Car: 2004 Prius Model: N/A Package: Base Thanks: 123 Thanked 180 Times in 138 Posts Friends: 33	Did the ad point out that the reason Toyota Prius didn't qualify for the $2100 tax credit while Honda's Civic did was because the Prius has been so successful it has passed the sales volume cutoff? I think they must be refering to front legroom and rear headroom. I think Prius has enough headroom I could wear a hat, not a cap but a full hat. (I wouldn't wear a hat while driving, I believe that is the international symbol for mobile road block.) Leg room in the back is bigger than any car I can think of! __________________ All the warranty I need. Still averaging 4.4L/100km across town 2004 silver base model Prius Shark fin, genuine mudflaps, colour matched side mouldings, rear bumper scuff guard, sheepskin seats, BT Plate. I love it!

09-17-2007, 10:30 AM	#8
PriuStorm Senior Member Join Date: Sep 2007 Location: Davis, CA Posts: 1,500 My Car: 2007 Prius Model: Package: #4 Thanks: 58 Thanked 33 Times in 23 Posts Friends: 8	We didn't go with the HCH for several things, but primarily because the rear seat does not fold like our current Accord does. I love the 60/40 split of the Prius. Also, when I test drove both cars, I specifically sat in the rear seat behind the driver's seat after I had adjusted the seat to my position (I like the driver's seat quite far back) and I was pleasantly surprised at how much leg room I had in the Prius compared to both our current Accord and the HCH. Third, I hit my head on the HCH when I sat down into the back seat... I quickly realized that the shape of the body/roof vs. the Prius would enable this to happen repeatedly (seems like it tucks down sooner. It really was no comparison... the Prius won hands down, especially when you consider the stealth mode! __________________ <---- Not Stupid www.notstupid.org The Age of Stupid.... the last age?

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09-17-2007, 02:51 AM	#1
priusenvy Senior Member Join Date: Mar 2004 Location: Silicon Valley, CA Posts: 1,758 My Car: 2005 Prius Model: Package: #6 Thanks: 0 Thanked 1 Time in 1 Post Friends: 0	No comments on this (new?) commercial where the HCH is compared to the Prius? I believe the claimed advantages were: 1) HCH has more legroom 2) HCH has more headroom 3) HCH has $2100 fed tax credit, Prius has $0

09-17-2007, 05:31 AM	#2
silver-machine Member Join Date: Apr 2007 Location: Sheffield UK Posts: 51 My Car: 2007 Prius Model: Package: T Spirit Thanks: 0 Thanked 0 Times in 0 Posts Friends: 0	not seen those ads. But Toyota are running a very classy campaign for the prius here is the UK at the moment stressing the fuel ecnomy, clean air and smoothness. The 4 page ad for the Prius in the 13 September New Scientist was excellent - talk about knowing their market !

09-17-2007, 05:51 AM	#3
rigormortis Senior Member Join Date: Feb 2007 Location: san jose, ca Posts: 1,313 My Car: 2007 Prius Model: Package: #5 Touring Thanks: 0 Thanked 0 Times in 0 Posts Friends: 1	isnt it true that the HCH does not have folding rear seats?

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09-17-2007, 07:41 AM	#5
JimboK One owner, low mileage Join Date: May 2006 Location: Chesterfield, VA Posts: 2,548 My Car: 2005 Prius Model: Package: #2 Thanks: 4 Thanked 88 Times in 69 Posts Friends: 6	More headroom? Maybe. But the Prius' headroom is more than enough for this 6-foot 4-incher. More legroom? For the front, ditto. For the rear, no way. That's one (small) reason I chose the Prius over the HCH. My tall teenagers would have been rather cramped in the Honda.

09-17-2007, 11:09 AM	#9
dogfriend Human - Animal Hybrid Join Date: Feb 2007 Location: Carmichael, CA Posts: 4,959 My Car: 2007 Prius Model: Package: #6 Thanks: 281 Thanked 175 Times in 147 Posts Friends: 11	No way does the HCH (Civic) have more headroom than the Prius. I tried to sit in one last summer - I couldn't fit in the car and I couldn't see out the windshield. The Prius just barely has enough headroom for me. My hair touches the headliner.