Hydrogen powered Hummer

bobm · 10-24-2004, 02:31 PM

Saw this article in this am's Nevada Appeal. The whole article made me chuckle. The last paragraph is interesting.

http://www.nevadaappeal.com/article/200410...EGION/110240041

bob

john1701a · 10-24-2004, 02:57 PM

I found this statement rather amusing... "given that the hydrogen Hummer needs to refuel every 50 miles" ...then a bit frightening.

Fool-Cells have far more limiting factors currently than certain people are willing to admit.

10 years for the average consumer is rather unrealistic still. Look at how slowly acceptance of hybrids is taking. And they don't even need a special fuel. Cost & Reliability are huge hurdles to overcome too, especially since HSD is making the task to compete far more of a challenge.

As for this closing statement... "which plans to retrofit 35 Toyota Prius hybrid cars to use hydrogen instead of gasoline" ...it really doesn't accomplish much. Making a combustion engine run on hydrogen shouldn't be the point. Attention should be placed on reducing consumption instead. Fuel-Cells don't either. In fact, they are less efficient.

hdrygas · 10-24-2004, 03:18 PM

I got it... the solution! On road refueling just like airplanes. We could have a series of hydrogen tanker trucks cruising around that you could dock up to on the road and refuel. Of course we would make the hydrogen by generating electricity with gas, oil and coal so it would support those industries. I know that I would feel bad if somebody in Saudi Arabia lost a job or something. :guns: :cussing:

:cussing: I sorry a Hummer of any sort not being used for it's intended purpose by the military in a war zone is moronic. Just one persons opinion but I do feel better.

**TonyPSchaefer** · 10-24-2004, 08:45 PM

How about the hydrogen powered Navistar? It's already approximately the size of a standard yellow star. The problem comes, however, when it runs out of fuel and collapses under its own weight to create a black hole singularity.

10-24-2004, 02:31 PM	#1
bobm Join Date: Sep 2004 Location: Gardnerville, NV Posts: 10 My Car: Model: Package: Thanks: 0 Thanked 0 Times in 0 Posts Friends: 0	Hydrogen powered Hummer Saw this article in this am's Nevada Appeal. The whole article made me chuckle. The last paragraph is interesting. http://www.nevadaappeal.com/article/200410...EGION/110240041 bob

10-24-2004, 02:57 PM	#2
john1701a Senior Member Join Date: Jan 2004 Location: Minnesota Posts: 3,671 My Car: 2010 Prius Model: IV Package: Solar Roof Thanks: 19 Thanked 238 Times in 134 Posts Friends: 12	Re: Hydrogen powered Hummer I found this statement rather amusing... "given that the hydrogen Hummer needs to refuel every 50 miles" ...then a bit frightening. Fool-Cells have far more limiting factors currently than certain people are willing to admit. 10 years for the average consumer is rather unrealistic still. Look at how slowly acceptance of hybrids is taking. And they don't even need a special fuel. Cost & Reliability are huge hurdles to overcome too, especially since HSD is making the task to compete far more of a challenge. As for this closing statement... "which plans to retrofit 35 Toyota Prius hybrid cars to use hydrogen instead of gasoline" ...it really doesn't accomplish much. Making a combustion engine run on hydrogen shouldn't be the point. Attention should be placed on reducing consumption instead. Fuel-Cells don't either. In fact, they are less efficient. __________________ JOHN http://john1701a.com 50.2 MPG average @ 15,777 miles

10-24-2004, 03:18 PM	#3
hdrygas Senior Member Join Date: May 2004 Location: Olympia Wa Posts: 3,650 My Car: 2004 Prius Model: Package: #9 Thanks: 0 Thanked 3 Times in 3 Posts Friends: 0	Re: Hydrogen powered Hummer I got it... the solution! On road refueling just like airplanes. We could have a series of hydrogen tanker trucks cruising around that you could dock up to on the road and refuel. Of course we would make the hydrogen by generating electricity with gas, oil and coal so it would support those industries. I know that I would feel bad if somebody in Saudi Arabia lost a job or something. :guns: :cussing: :cussing: I sorry a Hummer of any sort not being used for it's intended purpose by the military in a war zone is moronic. Just one persons opinion but I do feel better. __________________ Belle, a Millennium Silver '04 BC #9 "Becoming one with my Prius, ICE on ICE off" Belle has been passed on to my daughter. I have a new silver Prius 08. No name yet we have just met but not been introduced.

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10-24-2004, 08:45 PM	#4
TonyPSchaefer Your Friendly Moderator Join Date: May 2004 Location: Far-North Chicagoland Posts: 11,163 My Car: 2004 Prius Model: Package: #9 Thanks: 56 Thanked 293 Times in 184 Posts Friends: 27	How about the hydrogen powered Navistar? It's already approximately the size of a standard yellow star. The problem comes, however, when it runs out of fuel and collapses under its own weight to create a black hole singularity.