Jerk At Work Harassing Me Over Prius

[joe1347]

Chicks Dig My Tiny Carbon Footprint

What do women find sexy? Hybrids. They're chick magnets.

So says a survey by General Motors that found nearly nine in 10 women would rather talk to a guy in a Prius than a Porsche

Easy. Unlike a Honda Civic, Priuses are chick magnets. A debate over economics is irrelevant in this case.

[KandyRedCoi]

where can i meet those kinna chics?!? LOL

and what if you own a Prius and a Porsche?!?

[Godiva]

A Nash Metropolitan would be great to convert to an EV.

[Dr Ed]

Just tell him you never waste time debating people who don't know what they're talking about.

[Godiva]

Tell him he's right, and from now on you'll take his car. And you'll pay him what you'd save on gas. (Which will be less than $100.00....right?)

[Son of Gloin]

Originally Posted by PriusSport

Brilliant to buy in April or early May--just before the panic--about the 2nd week in May. I don't expect oil prices to stay high for much longer, but in the long term, a hybrid is the only way to go.

i don't expect oil prices to stay this high for much longer, either ... but ... IMHO, oil will probably NEVER dip below $90/barrel again, and the cost of oil / gasoline PROBABLY will exceed current levels - by far! - within the coming two or three years.

HENCE: i concur ... a hybrid is the only way to go; at least for now ... until the NEXT "better solution" comes along. regardless of gasoline prices, "reduced individual consumption / reduced air pollution / reduced dependence on foreign oil" and so on and so forth BY FAR outweigh the over-simplified aspect of "getting your money back" ....

[Son of Gloin]

Originally Posted by pdhenry

The "time to pay off the cost differential" argument ignores the higher resale value of a used Prius.

this is yet ANOTHER usually-overlooked "aspect" when people discuss the old "how long to recoup your money" issue! i wonder ... how much would a "fully loaded" 2004 Civic - hybrid or not - with, say, 60,000 miles net the owner upon re-sale or trade-in, when compared with a similarly equipped 2004 Prius with the same mileage? i might just invest in a Kelley's Blue Book and investigate ....

[cwerdna]

Originally Posted by tnthub

What I do know is that an extremely low buy in point for whatever vehicle can potentially lower the cost of ownership. One of my vehicles is a 1998 Mercury Sable wagon... I paid less than $800.00 for it, with 56,000 garage kept miles on the ticker, and it came with new tires and brakes... never been in an accident and it was owned by the father of a 70 year old secretary who formerly worked for my Uncle. When I received the I got 24 miles per gallon out of it. my last fill up I had achieved 30.2 miles per gallon.

What is most appalling to me is that somehow we have very few decent sized new vehicles that can achieve even 40 miles per gallon, regardless of the technology implemented. If I can get 30 miles per gallon out of a 4000 pound six cylinder wagon that is ten years old it seems alomst impossible that modern day vehicles cannot do significantly better as they come from the factory.

The 98 Mercury Sable is NOT 4000 lbs. Per 1998 Mercury Sable Exterior - MSN Autos, it's 3299-3360 lbs. Accord and Camry V6s weigh more than that now (example: 08 Accord V6 sedan is now 3567-3600 lbs).. The 98 Sable also only has a 145 hp V6 engine which is less than 4 cylinder engines on midsize cars (161 hp for a Camry I4 to 190 hp an Accord EX I4) now.

The issue is that a lot of mileage gains have been eaten up by increases in power and car bloat (in both size and weight). See Minicars? I don't See No Stinking Minicars - Column/Csaba Csere - The Steering Column/C/D Staff/Columns/Features/Car and Driver - Car And Driver and Light-Duty Automotive Technology and Fuel Economy Trends: 1975 Through 2007 - Executive Summary | Cars and Light Trucks | US EPA.

Just for kicks, I compared the two 98 Sable V6 wagons to a 08 Camry V6 on Side-by-Side Comparison. The better mileage on the two Sables has its EPA rating adjusted to 16/24, 19 combined. The Camry (268 hp) V6 receives a 19/28, 22 combined. That's reasonably impressive in my book. The Camry is >120 lbs. heavier and has 123 more hp yet is still able to achieve better mileage.

[tnthub]

Originally Posted by cwerdna

The 98 Mercury Sable is NOT 4000 lbs. Per 1998 Mercury Sable Exterior - MSN Autos, it's 3299-3360 lbs. Accord and Camry V6s weigh more than that now (example: 08 Accord V6 sedan is now 3567-3600 lbs).. The 98 Sable also only has a 145 hp V6 engine which is less than 4 cylinder engines on midsize cars (161 hp for a Camry I4 to 190 hp an Accord EX I4) now.

The issue is that a lot of mileage gains have been eaten up by increases in power and car bloat (in both size and weight). See Minicars? I don't See No Stinking Minicars - Column/Csaba Csere - The Steering Column/C/D Staff/Columns/Features/Car and Driver - Car And Driver and Light-Duty Automotive Technology and Fuel Economy Trends: 1975 Through 2007 - Executive Summary | Cars and Light Trucks | US EPA.

Just for kicks, I compared the two 98 Sable V6 wagons to a 08 Camry V6 on Side-by-Side Comparison. The better mileage on the two Sables has its EPA rating adjusted to 16/24, 19 combined. The Camry (268 hp) V6 receives a 19/28, 22 combined. That's reasonably impressive in my book. The Camry is >120 lbs. heavier and has 123 more hp yet is still able to achieve better mileage.

I did not look up the exact weight... It is a full size wagon. Of note, I have obtained 30 mpg in my 1994 Camaro with a 383 stroker on a round trip between Maine and Ohio.... Camaro weight with me in it at New England Dragway is 3610 pounds and my weight is 185...., I was also carrying a load of tools, and two spare slicks (no back seat). I do not know the actual horsepower of the Camaro but at the time it was running 11.8 in the quarter mile at 112 mph.

[hypnogirl]

Tell him you care about being green.
Isn't that why these cars were made in the first place?
Everyone who is jumping on the bandwagon now is doing it
to say themselves money.
Tell him YOU care about leaving a clean world for the future.