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Old 12-23-2006, 12:41 PM   #231
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..... It seems to get some light from the LED's on the edge but I had hoped it would light up entirely. Does the Sigma mirror have LED's in the front?

I wondered if Doc or someone with the 'factory' signal mirrors could take a closer picture? I wondered if the seam is perfectly smooth or if there are gaps like on mine. Also if they are brighter/have more LED's than ours. I think I counted 6 LED's on the side.


I'm new to PC but I own a "05 with 26K. I've added the electric mod and teh door lock kits with no problems. I'm following the side mirror and will order mine after Christmas.

Some questions is the yellow plastic visible from the inside and can more LEDs be added?

Is the e-bay housing fixed or does it retract (non-powered)?

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Old 12-23-2006, 05:13 PM   #232
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Some questions is the yellow plastic visible from the inside and can more LEDs be added?

- The plastic on the Ebay version is not yellow. It is clear with yellow LEDs. It is not visible from the inside of the car. IMO it would be distracting if it was. I don't feel the need to add any more LEDs. It is quite bright when lit. The light is channeled across the lenght of the clear plastic so it gives the appearance of the entire strip being illuminated. Since it projects slightly, the edge of the lights on the side of the mirror can be seen from behind as a slight strip that is also illuminated (about 1/4" wide by 2" tall) . An important point is that a car that is alongside you can now see a turn signal. It is clearly visible from the side.

Is the e-bay housing fixed or does it retract (non-powered)?

- The Ebay version replaces the outer shell (the part that is painted the same color as the car) of the mirror. There are no mechanics involved. Since the housing of the mirror is not changed, it folds like it used to, but thats all it does.

We installed 3 sets on LIPOG owners cars, and all of them have a nice tight fit at the seam.
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Old 12-23-2006, 07:19 PM   #233
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Some questions is the yellow plastic visible from the inside and can more LEDs be added?

Thanks Emile . Sorry I wasn't clear in original posting. I meant to ask is the plastic strip exposed (visible) from inside the shell so that it would be possible to add a strip of LEDs. I knew it was only visible from the front and side outside the car.

This was a follow-up to one of the previous posts were some one discussed that fact that the kit LEDs are at the outside of the shell. I would hope it's not visible from inside the car or it would be a distraction.

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Old 12-24-2006, 10:57 AM   #234
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The clear plastic strip is exposed from the inside of the shell. If I remember correctly, the LEDs are molded into the clear plastic and there are "light channels" to illuminate the entire strip. Somewhere in one of these posts there might be a photo of the covers showing the inside view. I would guess that if you really wanted to add LEDs that there would be room. If you decide to get these, I would say first try them out at night as stock before making that decision.

I've seen a kit for sale that is a strip of LEDs that sticks to the outer shell of a mirror housing and another kit that is a strip of LEDs in the shape of an arrow that sticks to the mirror itself. The EBay covers are not like this. The cover and signal lights are molded together as one piece (meaning the LEDs are not glued on top of the housing)
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The LED's in above photo are in the bulge, the lines in the clear plastic are the light channels so the whole strip illuminates.
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Old 12-24-2006, 04:08 PM   #235
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The fit and finish of the Toyota mirrors is flawless. THey are technically not even "aftermarket" as they are offered in Japan as an option. The seams and paint quality are just as good as the factory mirrors.

As far as the motorized function, I have not had time to look into that at all. I hope to once the holidays are over.

The lights are slightly visible from inside the car on these mirrors. THey stretch all the way around the housing, and you can even see the passenger side if you lean over.
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Old 01-04-2007, 05:11 PM   #236
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For anyone hesitant to place an order I was pleasantly surprised at the efficiency of K.T.DREAMWORK. I placed my order through PayPal on Friday 12/29. It was sent to K.T.DREAMWORK after 17:34 on 12/39. Since it was New Years week end I didn't expect any activity untll some time late this week.

My contact was Tommy and I received an e-mail with shipping info on 1/2 11:46 MST. It gave a shipping time of 16:09 on 1/2 (hong Kong).

I received my mirror covers this afternoon at 13:45 (04:45 1/5 Hong Kong). It took less than 61 hours from when K.T.DREAMWORK shipped this package to the USPS delivered it to me. I've ordered stuff in the US that doesn't get to me this fast.

The covers are as others have described, color is a perfect match. There was no wiring harness that some of the first purchasers had trouble with until it was realized the harness is not for the Prius.

I have one question. The instructions to install the covers are very detailed as part of this topic. The instructions that come from K.T.DREAMWORK would make the installation tough. Not the cover but the wiring. K.T.DREAMWORK does state to "connect the wires to the turn light signal from the fuse box or at the front lights" why did those of you who already did the install elect to get to the wires by dismantling the dashboard to get to those terminals rather than run the wires and connect at the front turn signals? Wouldn't it have been easier to run the wires from the door to the motor compartment and to the turn signals?

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<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE(CyJak @ Jan 4 2007, 04:11 PM) [snapback]370980[/snapback]</div>
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For anyone hesitant to place an order I was pleasantly surprised at the efficiency of K.T.DREAMWORK. I placed my order through PayPal on Friday 12/29. It was sent to K.T.DREAMWORK after 17:34 on 12/39. Since it was New Years week end I didn't expect any activity untll some time late this week.

My contact was Tommy and I received an e-mail with shipping info on 1/2 11:46 MST. It gave a shipping time of 16:09 on 1/2 (hong Kong).

I received my mirror covers this afternoon at 13:45 (04:45 1/5 Hong Kong). It took less than 61 hours from when K.T.DREAMWORK shipped this package to the USPS delivered it to me. I've ordered stuff in the US that doesn't get to me this fast.

The covers are as others have described, color is a perfect match. There was no wiring harness that some of the first purchasers had trouble with until it was realized the harness is not for the Prius.

I have one question. The instructions to install the covers are very detailed as part of this topic. The instructions that come from K.T.DREAMWORK would make the installation tough. Not the cover but the wiring. K.T.DREAMWORK does state to "connect the wires to the turn light signal from the fuse box or at the front lights" why did those of you who already did the install elect to get to the wires by dismantling the dashboard to get to those terminals rather than run the wires and connect at the front turn signals? Wouldn't it have been easier to run the wires from the door to the motor compartment and to the turn signals?

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Wow, I ordered the Sigma signal mirrors and EV on Nov 23, 2006 and have not received them yet. Credit card was charge up front. Others might take this into consideration.
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<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE(mrg @ Jan 4 2007, 07:12 PM) [snapback]371028[/snapback]</div>
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Wow, I ordered the Sigma signal mirrors and EV on Nov 23, 2006 and have not received them yet. Credit card was charge up front. Others might take this into consideration.
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Keep in mind that Sigma is only one guy who runs this side business as a benefit to Prius owners (he has one himself). He does not keep very much in inventory, and orders the parts from Japan once a month. Edward is a great guy and will do whatever he can, but things can only move so fast. Remember, he has access to many neat Prius parts that we would otherwise not be able to get.
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Wow, I ordered the Sigma signal mirrors and EV on Nov 23, 2006 and have not received them yet. Credit card was charge up front. Others might take this into consideration.
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Ditto. If you notice the date on the left frame of his website, that's the date he sends in all his orders so that he saves on shipping by shipping all the orders at one go.
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Also keep in mind that what Sigma is selling is very much different than what is on eBay. The cheaper signal mirrors are only the colored plastic cover on the back of the mirror housing. The Sigma parts are a complete replacement assembly that replaces everything from the door out.

If all you want to do is add the signals then the cheaper on will do. If you have a broken mirror, like I did, then that part is useless for you. If you consider that Toyota charges $250 for that assembly for ONE SIDE ONLY, and the colored back cover for another $40, and the mirror for another $65, the Sigma mirrors are a really good deal if you have a broken mirror.

Also the Sigma signal mirrors are a real Toyota part, not a cheap Chinese knock-off (although they may very well actually be made in China, who knows...), if that is important to anyone. They are part # 08411-47010-B1 from Toyota. Curiously the label was in English. Actually, I think most of the writing on the outside of the TRD suspension was in English too, even though all the instructions for both mirrors and suspension was in Japanese.
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