electrolysis, HHO intake charge

[neukin]

Ya prototype is ugly but you have to start somewhere. Wanted to make sure it worked before i put more money into it. If it doesnt work on your prototype your doing something wrong. Let me know what kind of testing you did.

I dont care what laws your looking into but i made it and tested/use it... the system works.

[bbald123]

Originally Posted by neukin

Ya prototype is ugly but you have to start somewhere. Wanted to make sure it worked before i put more money into it. If it doesnt work on your prototype your doing something wrong. Let me know what kind of testing you did.

I dont care what laws your looking into but i made it and tested/use it... the system works.

Prove it. You are the one making outlandish claims. The responsibility is yours.

Take it to an independent testing lab and generate the data so that it can be reviewed by qualified engineers.

Your say so just ain't good enough. And, it never will be.

[qbee42]

Independent dynamometer testing would be a good start.

Tom

[dogfriend]

As someone in PTS posted a few weeks ago, if the HHO scheme works and produces more energy than supplied - Why are you wasting your time on automobiles? Build a powerplant and supply electricity with it. You'll be rich.

[ZC1]

I'm confused...

Which product uses domestic snakes instead of those cheap foreign snakes?
Snakelin or SynSnakelin XMPG™?

ZC1

:-P

[dogfriend]

Snakelin™ is the original, patriotic choice for true Americans.

The other one is the cheap foreign ripoff.

[jayman]

Originally Posted by neukin

The automobile is so inefficient that getting the electricity to power a electrolysis unit with little or no load on the car is easy. The extra oxygen and hydrogen in the intake charge once the process is done really does help.

You are implying an efficiency beyond unity. That is impossible

[jayman]

Originally Posted by neukin

The natural combustion of fuel emits some water anyways... thats why on a crown vic v8 etc you see water pour out of the tail pipe etc.

No, that is called "condensation" which is typical of a lot of hot exhaust gas. There isn't anything magical about it, consider the average 250,000 BPD refinery will consume 10 million gallons of process water

What you have to consider is EROEI - Energy Returned On Energy Invested. That is the true "cost" and that is why hydrogen is such a dead end with current technology

If your gadget really did work, why isn't GM putting one under the hood of every pickup and SUV they are trying to sell? GM is drowning in red ink, seems to me if such a gadget did work it would be a ticker-tape parade for the inventer

I also don't believe in weird conspiracy, unless you want to discuss ignorant folks who don't understand basic science. I do a lot of consulting for the petrochemical industry. If there was a magic way to boost operating efficiency of a FCC catalyzing cell, especially on the order of +30%, the entire industry would have an orgasm

[qbee42]

Jayman, I assume the poster is talking about water being formed during the combustion of hydrocarbons. As you have stated, that water will be in vapor form, and some will condense in the exhaust system. That said, I'm not sure what any of this has to do with fuel economy and fanciful add-on devices.

Tom

[priusenvy]

Originally Posted by bbald123

One last time. Then I'm going to ignore this thread:

It
CANNOT
help.

It is thermodynamically impossible.
It is against the laws of physics.
And, it is plug ugly!

You're handicapped by having some education in chemistry and physics. This stuff is a lot easier to understand if you just pretend you dropped out in the 10th grade.