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Old 05-20-2008, 03:48 PM   #31
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You're handicapped by having some education in chemistry and physics. This stuff is a lot easier to understand if you just pretend you dropped out in the 10th grade.
Yes, and if you took thermodynamics and understood some of it, then you are completely disqualified from further discussion.
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Old 05-20-2008, 06:04 PM   #32
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I'm not sure what any of this has to do with fuel economy and fanciful add-on devices.
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I'll be the first to admit I just returned from a business trip and was *very* very tired. Had a nap and realized I could have worded that better

The poster gave the impression that somehow it was ok or not harmful for a motor to "burn" water, as evidenced by the condensation dripping from a Crown Vic tailpipe(s).

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Old 05-20-2008, 06:05 PM   #33
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You're handicapped by having some education in chemistry and physics. This stuff is a lot easier to understand if you just pretend you dropped out in the 10th grade.
Ah, that was my mistake. All that silly computer science and chemical engineering. Shame on me, now I must do heavy drinking to repent
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Old 05-20-2008, 06:08 PM   #34
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I run 9psi of boost making close to 275whp and get 38mpg with the system installed on a crappy mpg tune.
With this setup do you pass emissions testing?
What MPGs does it get without this system and with the engine tuned correctly?
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With this setup do you pass emissions testing?
What MPGs does it get without this system and with the engine tuned correctly?
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I was wondering about that too. Of course, most of the rice rockets I've seen are already blowing blue smoke anyway ...
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Yes, and if you took thermodynamics and understood some of it, then you are completely disqualified from further discussion.
Don't kid yourself. At the rate things are going in the US - and Canada - give it a few more years and folks like us will be burned at the stake. I'm sure you've noticed that a large portion of our society appears to be regressing
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Many of these devices have you remove or tamper with the oxygen sensor, making the engine run overly lean. That's one way to get a short term boost in fuel economy.

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Don't kid yourself. At the rate things are going in the US - and Canada - give it a few more years and folks like us will be burned at the stake. I'm sure you've noticed that a large portion of our society appears to be regressing
If you want to know where we are headed, visit your local WalMart.
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I'll be the first to admit I just returned from a business trip and was *very* very tired. Had a nap and realized I could have worded that better

The poster gave the impression that somehow it was ok or not harmful for a motor to "burn" water, as evidenced by the condensation dripping from a Crown Vic tailpipe(s).

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I gathered that was where you were going. I was just clarifying that water is produced when you burn hydrocarbons.

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Don't kid yourself. At the rate things are going in the US - and Canada - give it a few more years and folks like us will be burned at the stake. I'm sure you've noticed that a large portion of our society appears to be regressing
Ugh. A lot of Americans are so proud of their stupidity, they wear it like a badge of honor. We have a TV show here called "Are You Smarter Than 5th Grader", where people demonstrate that they aren't, to the delight of the audience.
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