You are here: PriusChat Forums


Go Back   PriusChat Forums > Gen III (2010+) Toyota Prius Forums > Gen III 2010 Prius Accessories and Modifications
Connect with Facebook

This is a discussion on What's the best BUZZ BOX (Jumper box)? within the Gen III 2010 Prius Accessories and Modifications forums, part of the Gen III (2010+) Toyota Prius Forums category; OK, I accept that the Gen III Prius will develop a dead 12 V battery after being parked for 3 ...


What's the best BUZZ BOX (Jumper box)?

Reply
 
LinkBack Thread Tools
Old 10-14-2009, 05:42 PM   #1
antoine
Junior Member
 
Join Date: Jun 2009
Location: maine
Posts: 24
My Car: 2010 Prius
Model: II
Package: No Package
Thanks: 0
Thanked 0 Times in 0 Posts
Friends: 0
Default What's the best BUZZ BOX (Jumper box)?

OK, I accept that the Gen III Prius will develop a dead 12 V battery after
being parked for 3 weeks. So if I go on a long trip and leave the Prius
in an airport parking lot I should have a portable JUMP START box.

Question is:

1. What's the best jumper box to buy?
2. How big (how many amps) should it be?
3. Can it be too big and damage the Prius battery?

I saw that Sears has a DieHard 750 amp (peak amp) model for
$59. Some like the Black & Decker unit. What should I buy? It
would also be nice if it would work on my RAV too.

Thanks -
antoine is offline  
Digg this Post!Add Post to del.icio.usBookmark Post in TechnoratiFurl this Post!
Reply With Quote
Old 10-14-2009, 06:21 PM   #2
JRitt
Bio-Medical Equip. Tech
 
Join Date: Jul 2009
Location: St Louis, Mo
Posts: 131
My Car: 2010 Prius
Model: II
Package: Base
Thanks: 2
Thanked 8 Times in 8 Posts
Friends: 0
Default Re: What's the best BUZZ BOX (Jumper box)?

Get a small one. The 12v battery does not start the car. You only need enough power to close the contactor to the traction battery that is used to start the car.
JRitt is offline  
Digg this Post!Add Post to del.icio.usBookmark Post in TechnoratiFurl this Post!
Reply With Quote
Old 10-14-2009, 07:04 PM   #3
JimboPalmer
Tsar of all the Rushers
 
JimboPalmer's Avatar
 
Join Date: Apr 2009
Location: Greenwood MS USA
Posts: 380
My Car: 2009 Prius
Model: N/A
Package: #5
Thanks: 17
Thanked 66 Times in 53 Posts
Friends: 3
Default Re: What's the best BUZZ BOX (Jumper box)?

Get one that clamps to the battery terminals*, not the cigarette lighter, as in a Prius the lighter is not active until after it starts.

* there is a 'jumpstart' terminal under the hood, even though the battery is in the back.
JimboPalmer is offline  
Digg this Post!Add Post to del.icio.usBookmark Post in TechnoratiFurl this Post!
Reply With Quote
Old 10-15-2009, 08:42 AM   #4
antoine
Junior Member
 
Join Date: Jun 2009
Location: maine
Posts: 24
My Car: 2010 Prius
Model: II
Package: No Package
Thanks: 0
Thanked 0 Times in 0 Posts
Friends: 0
Default Re: What's the best BUZZ BOX (Jumper box)?

Can anyone recommend a best brand and model? How
many AMPS do I need?
antoine is offline  
Digg this Post!Add Post to del.icio.usBookmark Post in TechnoratiFurl this Post!
Reply With Quote
Old 10-15-2009, 09:22 AM   #5
JRitt
Bio-Medical Equip. Tech
 
Join Date: Jul 2009
Location: St Louis, Mo
Posts: 131
My Car: 2010 Prius
Model: II
Package: Base
Thanks: 2
Thanked 8 Times in 8 Posts
Friends: 0
Default Re: What's the best BUZZ BOX (Jumper box)?

The smallest ones will work but if you want one to use on larger vehicles and use the power outlet and a light this would work good
JRitt is offline  
Digg this Post!Add Post to del.icio.usBookmark Post in TechnoratiFurl this Post!
Reply With Quote
Old 10-15-2009, 02:48 PM   #6
EZW1
Senior Member
 
EZW1's Avatar
 
Join Date: Aug 2008
Location: Phoenix, AZ
Posts: 598
My Car: 2009 Prius
Model: N/A
Package: #5
Thanks: 0
Thanked 23 Times in 19 Posts
Friends: 1
Default Re: What's the best BUZZ BOX (Jumper box)?

CAUTION: When choosing the correct size buzz box.. Note that when you first push the START button, and before the traction battery relay begin their dance, there is a very large pull from the 12V battery as all the electronic packages power on and boot up. There are literally a dozen such packages. Until these boot and the traction battery relays to their dance, the 12V battery must hold on. Now, as to how much current is pulled, that is unclear. I've read posts here that say as small as 25A and as high as 40A is pulled off the 12V battery during this time.
__________________
Incumbo decerno mei bene laboro ibidem absentia ab lux.
"I do my best work in the dark."
EZW1 is offline  
Digg this Post!Add Post to del.icio.usBookmark Post in TechnoratiFurl this Post!
Reply With Quote
Old 10-17-2009, 02:51 AM   #7
jayvee
Senior Member
 
Join Date: Aug 2009
Location: WA
Posts: 199
My Car: 2010 Prius
Model: IV
Package: Navigation
Thanks: 43
Thanked 48 Times in 34 Posts
Friends: 0
Default Re: What's the best BUZZ BOX (Jumper box)?

Quote:
Originally Posted by antoine View Post
OK, I accept that the Gen III Prius will develop a dead 12 V battery after
being parked for 3 weeks.
Why "accept" this? The Smart key system shuts itself off after 5 days (see owners manual page 49). There are numerous posts in this forum disproving this dead battery "myth", with people leaving their Gen III parked for several weeks with no issues.

Also, the owners manual page 30 states:
However, if the vehicle is left parked for a long time the
hybrid battery will slowly discharge. For this reason, be sure to drive the
vehicle at least once every several months for at least 30 minutes or 10
miles (16 km).

I think you'd be just fine parked for several weeks.
jayvee is offline  
Digg this Post!Add Post to del.icio.usBookmark Post in TechnoratiFurl this Post!
Reply With Quote
Old 10-19-2009, 11:51 AM   #8
Vapor
Junior Member
 
Join Date: Aug 2009
Location: Chicagoland
Posts: 12
My Car: 2010 Prius
Model: II
Package: No Package
Thanks: 8
Thanked 0 Times in 0 Posts
Friends: 0
Default Re: What's the best BUZZ BOX (Jumper box)?

I think the specs you were looking at with the Sears will work well. JRitt's link adds the 120AC option. I did similar--probably a bit bulkier and expensive than needed...has more outlets. Holds its charge well.
Amazon.com: Duracell DPP-600HD Powerpack 600 Jump Starter & Emergency Power Source with Radio: AutomotiveAmazon.com: Duracell DPP-600HD Powerpack 600 Jump Starter & Emergency Power Source with Radio: Automotive
Nice power pack for a picnic/tailgate.
Haven't had to jump the Prius yet.

I think Xantrex makes this for Duracell.

Last edited by Vapor; 10-19-2009 at 11:53 AM.
Vapor is offline  
Digg this Post!Add Post to del.icio.usBookmark Post in TechnoratiFurl this Post!
Reply With Quote
Old 10-19-2009, 02:55 PM   #9
Pohaku
Member
 
Pohaku's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jul 2009
Location: twin cities
Posts: 90
My Car: 2010 Prius
Model: II
Package: No Package
Thanks: 6
Thanked 13 Times in 12 Posts
Friends: 0
Default Re: What's the best BUZZ BOX (Jumper box)?

Rainy Day Magazine: RainyDayGarage - JNC Air FirstLook

How about this unit. With compressor for those wanting to do their tires as well.
Pohaku is offline  
Digg this Post!Add Post to del.icio.usBookmark Post in TechnoratiFurl this Post!
Reply With Quote
Reply

Tags
box, buzz, jumper
Similar Threads
Thread Thread Starter Forum Replies Last Post
Jumper Cable ? for Gen III Prius FLP Newbie Forum 6 07-19-2009 06:34 PM
Jumper battery for Prius okiebutnotfrommuskogee Gen II Prius Main Forum 13 07-06-2007 08:51 PM
Jumper Cables flynz4 Gen II Prius Main Forum 7 06-09-2006 11:28 PM
Jumper Leads LaniLobes Gen II Prius Care, Maintenance and Troubleshooting 1 05-07-2006 08:35 AM
Jumper Cables? exces6 Gen II Prius Main Forum 26 12-10-2004 09:59 PM


Bookmarks

Thread Tools

Posting Rules
You may not post new threads
You may not post replies
You may not post attachments
You may not edit your posts

BB code is On
Smilies are On
[IMG] code is On
HTML code is Off
Trackbacks are On
Pingbacks are On
Refbacks are On



All times are GMT -5. The time now is 12:12 PM.


Powered by vBulletin®
Copyright ©2000 - 2009, Jelsoft Enterprises Ltd.
Content Relevant URLs by vBSEO 3.3.2