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Old 09-23-2009, 07:55 PM   #21
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Exactly, which means you are in control. If in a few years you decide you would like a new car, brace yourself hard back against the seat and hit the brakes. You don't even have to have a reason for slamming on the brakes. If they rear end you it's their fault.

Maybe i'm not that smart but i think slamming on the brakes and letting a 2-3 ton truck or suv slam into my prius could change the rest of my life, I could be in pain the rest of my life or killed.

I see it at least 2-4 times a week, a small car is totaled by a large truck/SUV i'm talking new cars that are worth 20-30k and the suv's and truck will end up with a 0-1,000 repair bill. it's not a fare fight thats why i am saying i belive these people in large trucks/suvs that tailgate me are driving with intent to inflect serious harm to my body, and there should be a law that protects my right to defend my body/life!!! If someone goes up to me in public and starts swinging a tire iron around me i have a right to defend myself, even if the person says they were not going to hit me only scare me, I HAVE A RIGHT TO DEFEND MY BODY FROM HARM BY OTHERS. BUT NOT ON THE RAOD????????
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Old 09-23-2009, 08:19 PM   #22
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The Prius can be tricky because of P&G. While gliding you are slowing down, just without the visible signs of the brake lights as an indicator to those behind you. I believe this might be part of the reason Prius owners feel tailgated more often.

When I get a tailgater on my butt i don't slam my brakes, but I do give them a warning tap to back them off, and I just keep doing it until they back off or go around. I'm not looking for a lawsuit, just a little breathing room for safety.
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Old 09-24-2009, 11:38 AM   #23
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Exactly, which means you are in control. If in a few years you decide you would like a new car, brace yourself hard back against the seat and hit the brakes. You don't even have to have a reason for slamming on the brakes. If they rear end you it's their fault.
Actually, at least in all the places I've lived, slamming on your brakes for no reason constitutes at the very least reckless driving, and can easily land you a ticket. Which can at the very least have you be partially at fault for any accident that happens as a result. And if the investigation shows that you intentionally slammed on your brakes to cause an accident the entire thing can end up being thrown in your lap. And at least some auto insurance won't cover damage to your car if the determination is that you cause it purposefully.
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Old 09-24-2009, 11:41 AM   #24
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When I get a tailgater on my butt i don't slam my brakes, but I do give them a warning tap to back them off, and I just keep doing it until they back off or go around. I'm not looking for a lawsuit, just a little breathing room for safety.
If there are lanes they can use to pass me I generally don't even tap my brakes. I just take my foot off the gas. Eventually I slow down enough that they'll pass me.

I haven't really noticed getting tailgated any more with my Prius than I was in my previous car (Highlander). Maybe it is a regional thing...
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Old 09-24-2009, 05:13 PM   #25
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After warm-up, I don't PnG but I do like to get on two-lane, access roads (one way) and set my cruise control at say 28-32 mph while in the right hand lane. Sure enough, there are folks who will run up behind me and not pass. If the left lane is open, I change lanes, they pass me on the right, and I move back to the slow lane.

Sometimes, they scamper up a 100 yards and then brake to make a right turn. Other times, I am behind them at the next red light. Regardless, I'm pretty laid back about it and it does not really bother me. Heck, I consider it a courtesy extended to the other drivers.

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i have been pissing off the driving populace of the Olympia, WA area for 5 plus years now...still see em seething on a daily basis and i used to do it alone, but ya know what?

i now notice that i have company. others are driving even SLOWER than me!!. its great, i have started a trend!! i still see people pointing at my license plates in the Safeway parking lot.

the sun is shining and i feel good
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Dave,

I've been doing it for a long time myself and seldom am I actually obstructing the angry drivers from behind.

Throw in rudeness on the roads along with similar acts like Serena Williams blowup, Rep Joe Wilson's heckling of the President, Kanye West's hijack of Taylor Swift's award
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Dave,

I've been doing it for a long time myself and seldom am I actually obstructing the angry drivers from behind.

Throw in rudeness on the roads along with similar acts like Serena Williams blowup, Rep Joe Wilson's heckling of the President, Kanye West's hijack of Taylor Swift's award
ya, i maybe be magnifying my effect on the psyche of the drivers around here. most are ok with it knowing that traffic wont allow them to get there quicker no matter what i do. but i always get that guy who will go flying around me just to cut back in front of me to slam on his brakes so he is in front of me at the light. see that at least 2-3 times a week. granted i drive the same route, maybe its always the same guy??
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Dave,

I think the psychologists would say the driver flying to the left of you has a low EQ (Emotional Quotient)
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Honestly, I live in fear of people like that, you know the ones that "slip" in a grocery store and look for a free ride for life. It's because of these people that I can't afford insurance for my airplane anymore, and because of that nobody get's rides anymore either. Who get's hurt? All of the normal people do, only the thieves profit. Use to be kids hung around at airports and helped wash airplanes and got rides in exchange, not anymore
but.... they were following too close, it's their fault, end of story.
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