Sure you want a car with a lithium battery?

[efusco]

Got a "We're sorry, this video is no longer available" message for the A123.

[hill]

Problem child is right ... you'd have to be some kind of loser to not know gas is way more safe than lithium:

YouTube - surveillance cam footage of truck catching fire

YouTube - surveillance cam footage of truck catching fire

huh huh huh,
never mind.



someone missed their dose of lithium, I fear.

[dwdean]

I think that b11101100 hit the nail on the head as it were. If you look carefully at the original video at between 0:01 and 0:02, you can see the end of the stick that "tapped" the battery. It has what looks like a nail in the end of it....go figure....

Even if it didn't, if that's all it take to set off a Li chemistry cell phone battery, I should have fried myself a dozen time over by now.

[hill]

Based on data from the U.S. Fire Administration’s (USFA) National Fire Incident Reporting System (NFIRS) and NFPA’s fire department survey, NFPA estimates that an average of 325,100 vehicle fires were reported to U.S. fire departments annually in the years 1999 through 2003. These fires caused an average of 440 civilian deaths, 1,500 civilian injuries, and $1.2 billion in direct property damage.

The percentage of EV batteries in that 325,100 ? Try 0% It'd be a shame if that level of auto fire incidence increased 1%, by adding a million EV's, wouldn't it? Estimates are that gas related auto fires will decrease substantially though, if that same level of ICE were removed. Wonder why. Dirty little secrets the oilies don't want you to know.

[sdtundra]

While I do agree that lithium ion batteries in cars aren't a real danger, the video posted by hill shows that the operator of the gas pump was a real tool. There are pictures up on the pump that say and show "Fill portable containers on the ground"

[KK6PD]

Originally Posted by sdtundra

While I do agree that lithium ion batteries in cars aren't a real danger, the video posted by hill shows that the operator of the gas pump was a real tool. There are pictures up on the pump that say and show "Fill portable containers on the ground"

Sadly, the warnings are only in english, and ment for folk with an I.Q. at least above a powdered doughnut!

KK6PD

[daniel]

Originally Posted by hill

Based on data from the U.S. Fire Administration’s (USFA) National Fire Incident Reporting System (NFIRS) and NFPA’s fire department survey, NFPA estimates that an average of 325,100 vehicle fires were reported to U.S. fire departments annually in the years 1999 through 2003. These fires caused an average of 440 civilian deaths, 1,500 civilian injuries, and $1.2 billion in direct property damage.

[...] Dirty little secrets the oilies don't want you to know.

Actually, it's weirder than that! You can't find an "action" movie that does not have at least one exploding car. Every gas-car driver knows he's driving a bomb on wheels. But it's just become so commonplace that people accept it as inevitable.

But a new danger, well that's worth a good few hundred hours of ranting against change.

Originally Posted by sdtundra

While I do agree that lithium ion batteries in cars aren't a real danger, the video posted by hill shows that the operator of the gas pump was a real tool. There are pictures up on the pump that say and show "Fill portable containers on the ground"

It kind of looked to me as though, when he removed the nozzle from the can and it ignited, he turned around and sprayed the bed of his truck from the nozzle.

Maybe we need to set a minimum IQ for obtaining a driver's license.

[PriuStorm]

Originally Posted by KK6PD

Sadly, the warnings are only in english, and ment for folk with an I.Q. at least above a powdered doughnut!

KK6PD

The video makes a good case for why gas should be pumped by a trained employee ONLY.

It would be interesting to know if there's a relative difference in gas station fires between Oregon and New Jersey (that require an attendant to pump your gas) vs. states without that requirement.

[darelldd]

Exactly! And If we posted info on how you shouldn't pound a nail through your batteries, we'd probably all be safer in that department as well.

[darelldd]

Oh, and as for not having your child use the pump? Check this out. My daughter starting helping us "fuel" the EV when she was 18 months.



Yup. Still in diapers, but she could safely fuel the car.