2010 pulse and glide and other tech. still works?

[Flying White Dutchman]

anyone try the glide and stuff with the 2010 prius
is it still the same ?

[Tideland Prius]

Originally Posted by Flying White Dutchman

anyone try the glide and stuff with the 2010 prius
is it still the same ?

Yeah but harder. The TCH was already hard to P&G. I actually had to cheat and use N.

In the 2010, it's slightly easier than the TCH but still harder than the Gen 2.

[kinghuang]

Originally Posted by Tideland Prius

Yeah but harder. The TCH was already hard to P&G. I actually had to cheat and use N.

In the 2010, it's slightly easier than the TCH but still harder than the Gen 2.

What do you mean by it's harder to pulse & glide in the 2010? Is it harder to hold the gas pedal at a point where it's effectively N?

[HTMLSpinnr]

Pedal modulation may be harder, but there's a distinct region in the hybrid system indicator (which some have coined HSI, but that will always be an aircraft instrument for me) that specifically shows no charge or power delivery.

[ronhowell]

Originally Posted by HTMLSpinnr

Pedal modulation may be harder, but there's a distinct region in the hybrid system indicator (which some have coined HSI, but that will always be an aircraft instrument for me) that specifically shows no charge or power delivery.

HSI? - what aircraft indicator? I'm familiar with a VSI!

[ronhowell]

Originally Posted by Flying White Dutchman

anyone try the glide and stuff with the 2010 prius
is it still the same ?

Question. If "Pulse and Glide" is really the optimum way to maximize your MPG in the Prius, with minimal use of the traction battery at all times, why have an EV button at all?

Using it kind of defeats the objective, doesn't it?. Wouldn't it have been preferable for Toyota to have engineered the G3 Prius to simply glide when taking one's foot off the accelerator at all times, and substituted a "Regen" switch in place of the EV button? At the same time, activating regeneration as usual when applying the brake.

Just a thought!

Or maybe that is what the "Eco" mode does.

[Tideland Prius]

Originally Posted by kinghuang

What do you mean by it's harder to pulse & glide in the 2010? Is it harder to hold the gas pedal at a point where it's effectively N?

Yeah. On the Hybrid System Indicator (HSI), when you see no bars on the screen, it's effectively gliding. However, you really have to be careful because there may even be a sliver of a bar and you'll be in EV mode instead of gliding.

On several occasions, I thought I was gliding and when I switched to the Energy Monitor, I was EVing...

Originally Posted by ronhowell

Question. If "Pulse and Glide" is really the optimum way to maximize your MPG in the Prius, with minimal use of the traction battery at all times, why have an EV button at all?

Using it kind of defeats the objective, doesn't it?. Wouldn't it have been preferable for Toyota to have engineered the G3 Prius to simply glide when taking one's foot off the accelerator at all times, and substituted a "Regen" switch in place of the EV button? At the same time, activating regeneration as usual when applying the brake.

Just a thought!

Or maybe that is what the "Eco" mode does.

EV Button isn't really used for driving even though the media has been touting it as such (even saying that it can improve your mileage because it worked for them on the last mile of the test route).

EV Drive Mode for me works in the following situations but it may vary for you

- moving in/out of the garage
- switching parking spots
- moving in and around an enclosed area such as an underground parking lot
- forcing the engine off on part of the commute it normally would be off on its own
- forcing the engine off on the final approach to home on a route it'll normally be off and you don't need a warm engine (i.e. last ride of the day)
- keeping the engine off til you've had a chance to merge onto the main street from a parking lot


I'm sure you can come up with more situations.

[HTMLSpinnr]

Originally Posted by ronhowell

HSI? - what aircraft indicator? I'm familiar with a VSI!

Horizontal Situation Indicator - usually electric and typically replaces a vacuum driven directional gyro. Overlays VOR (or other course info like GPS), ILS, etc. with the heading indicator.

See: Wikipedia: Horizontal Situation Indicator

[Zhentar]

Originally Posted by ronhowell

Question. If "Pulse and Glide" is really the optimum way to maximize your MPG in the Prius, with minimal use of the traction battery at all times, why have an EV button at all?

Using it kind of defeats the objective, doesn't it?. Wouldn't it have been preferable for Toyota to have engineered the G3 Prius to simply glide when taking one's foot off the accelerator at all times, and substituted a "Regen" switch in place of the EV button? At the same time, activating regeneration as usual when applying the brake.

The Prius wasn't designed with the goal of great gas mileage for hypermilers; it was designed for good gas mileage for normal drivers while still feeling like a normal car. The light braking effect not only mimics the feel of a non-hybrid, but the energy can be used to keep the engine turning without consuming any gas or battery, when needed.

[Flying White Dutchman]

Originally Posted by Zhentar

The Prius wasn't designed with the goal of great gas mileage for hypermilers; it was designed for good gas mileage for normal drivers while still feeling like a normal car. The light braking effect not only mimics the feel of a non-hybrid, but the energy can be used to keep the engine turning without consuming any gas or battery, when needed.

its not to mimic ice braking like a normal car its to regen and put energy into the battery
and then the ICE is not turning without gas its not turning at all.

of course the regen is less in off gaspadel then with braking