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Old 07-28-2009, 10:23 AM   #11
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BTW, neat piece of trivia. The XM satellites have rockets and are able to move around and change orbit locations just like spy satellites.
All geosynchronous satellites have maneuvering thrusters, else they would all pile up over gravitational minimums. Orbital mechanics won't allow for anything else. Perhaps the XM satellites have bigger thrusters and more fuel.

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Old 07-28-2009, 12:12 PM   #12
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FWIW, I think the XM reception in the Prius (my example, at least) is nowhere near as good as the standalone receiver I used to move from car to car. The portable had a little tiny magnetic antenna on the roof and there were very few places where it would ever cut out. With the built in one in our new package IV solar, it cuts in and out constantly. Since we're driving the same area, I can rule out the variable of location - there is definitely something, if not wrong with, at least slightly inferior regarding the built in XM.
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Old 07-28-2009, 03:38 PM   #13
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1) i feel a vibration under my feet on mostly "not so smooth roads". i haven't felt this ever before. (had a '08 camry before this)
They put it in the air and looked it over. maybe the heat shields or something. they are talking it over with a toyota rep. no word yet.
Are you feeling the same thing that is outlined in this thread:
Weird Handling Problem
If so I have opened a case with both Toyota & Yokohama.
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Old 07-28-2009, 04:47 PM   #14
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hello,
i have 2 issues with my new prius. i think my second issue has been talked about, but any new news is appreciated.

1) i feel a vibration under my feet on mostly "not so smooth roads". i haven't felt this ever before. (had a '08 camry before this)
They put it in the air and looked it over. maybe the heat shields or something. they are talking it over with a toyota rep. no word yet.

2) XM radio reception is crap. I have 3 after-market sirius radios and they work perfectly. XM will cut-out near objects and when i go thru mountain areas it will lose reception completely for so long that i just turn the radio off for the trip=rediculous.
XM says i need to talk to toyota and toyota hasn't had any compaints.
Anyone else with this problem needs to complain, or else nothing will happen. they are looking to see if there is a sirius receiver that they can put in it that will integrate like the xm does.

any ideas on these? anyone else talking to toyota about these?
thanks so much,
chris

Sadly, the XM problem has nothing to do with the car's receiver. Sirius uses a network of low orbit birds that the receiver "locates", not unlike the way that GPS receivers find their birds. XM is based on DirectTV geosynchronus orbiting sattelites. Neither system is perfect. Due to the fixed location of the XM sattelites, shadows caused by buildings, trees, hills, etc. are "fixed". Frequently Serius works in those shadows, but fails somewhere else.
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Old 07-28-2009, 04:57 PM   #15
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Sadly, the XM problem has nothing to do with the car's receiver. Sirius uses a network of low orbit birds that the receiver "locates", not unlike the way that GPS receivers find their birds. XM is based on DirectTV geosynchronus orbiting sattelites. Neither system is perfect. Due to the fixed location of the XM sattelites, shadows caused by buildings, trees, hills, etc. are "fixed". Frequently Serius works in those shadows, but fails somewhere else.
Valuable data on the satellite function and much appreciated. However, that does not explain the performance difference I have noticed between my portable XM unit that I used to use and the XM unit designed into the Prius. The Prius clearly has much poorer reception than my RoadyXT portable, even in the same spot.
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Old 07-31-2009, 11:58 AM   #16
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Absolutely no problem on either front.
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Old 10-06-2009, 10:41 PM   #17
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I am a new Toyota, AND new Prius owner and I have had terrible reception with the XM receiver in my new car. I have had two fords with Sirius in the past 4 years and neither of them ever dropped signal unless I was under some HUGE overpass. Seriously I bet I've dropped signal in those two cars 5 times in 4 years.

I've had XM and my Prius for a little over a week now and if I drive on a street with too many trees.......I'm loosing signal like crazy.

I have contacted Toyota about the issue through their website via email. Two business days later still no reply or concern from Toyota.
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Old 10-07-2009, 04:31 AM   #18
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yeah, good luck with that. the dealershit keeps giving me the brushoff/not our problem story. it is a problem with the satellite. not sure if i should just give-up on this one. any suggestions are appreciated.
it's just very frustrating that i had sirius in my last toyota(aftermarket plug & play unit) and it worked Flawlessly. now, my xm trial has ended. what a waste of money.
thanks
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Old 10-07-2009, 08:50 AM   #19
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I have no issues with the vibration thing you're talking about... never noticed it?!?

Regarding the satellite radio reception, I would say... the reception in the Prius is not as good as in other cars I own or have owned, but it is not that bad. The audio goes off for a few seconds every once in a while... no biggie!
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Old 10-07-2009, 09:43 AM   #20
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I don't have too much complaints with the dropping signal in my area...it does happen- but not as bad as it did with my portable Sirius player in my car for years.

I do have a different weird XM issue. Most of the time the sound seems to come from the front speakers only, like a cheesy AM radio from the 1960's....and then, for no apparent reason, it suddenly will deepen in tone and jump to all my sound system- it suddenly sounds like stereo with right/left separation and everything. I don't hear this happening with CD or USB music, only with XM. Any idea what may cause that?
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