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Old 08-23-2009, 03:37 PM   #31
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Great pics, but the white balance is different between the two. The white balance is far more yellow in the halogen pic, you can tell by the sky. I have the II with the halogen and while they are yellow, they are not that yellow.
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The sky is clearly more bright in the LED pic. It's almost as if the halogen pic has a sepia-like effect on it. (not to claim that these pics are a fraud but I just don't remember my stock halogens looking nearly that orange/yellowish)
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so a few questions:

How do these LEDs work in foul weather(rain, wet pavements, etc)? I have used quite a number of LED devices and even the higher powered SSC P7 emitters have trouble with wet conditions,.

also, what's with the color of the back ground sky? they look a lot different in the two photos.
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I haven't noticed an ill effect using the LED headlights during wet weather conditions.

As I mentioned, I had to drive there and take the pics. Then drive home grab my dads car and go back to reshoot the halogen pics. It was done around 9pm so the sky darkened a bit, but to me it wasn't really noticeable to my naked eye yet it showed up like that in the pics. Trust me, it was nowhere near enough to affect the results you see...
As talked about above. I couldn't get my dad to go with me so I had to make 2 trips to the spot... Also, after getting home and driving my dads car there for the first time at night, I thought they were much yellow looking compared to what I have become accustomed to...
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Thanks for this nice job.
But in my country (Belgium) the difference between the price of a 'LUNA' or a 'SOL' is too high and I don't drive enough at night.
Belgian market has only 4 models :
Terra ( 27150 ) => I - II (in the USA)
Luna (29060 )=> III - IV
SOL (32360 )=> IV - V
SOLAR PREMIUM (36450 )= SOL + solar roof + some extras
The equipments are defined by models and only painting metal is available as option.
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Thanks for this nice job.
But in my country (Belgium) the difference between the price of a 'LUNA' or a 'SOL' is too high and I don't drive enough at night.
Belgian market has only 4 models :
Terra ( 27150 ) => I - II (in the USA)
Luna (29060 )=> III - IV
SOL (32360 )=> IV - V
SOLAR PREMIUM (36450 )= SOL + solar roof + some extras
The equipments are defined by models and only painting metal is available as option.
I'll add your country's models to the profile so that you can list it. Thanks for listing the models!
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What is involved in making the change to LED or can it even be done? Is it a simple matter of buying and replacing the current bulbs or is there some modification that is necessary to fit the LED into the existing structure? How about price, and where should the LED's be purchased...dealer or auto supply store?

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As promised in the LED Headlamp comparison thread, I went out a few minutes ago and took pictures of my Dads Prius III Halogen headlights and then took a picture of my Prius V's LED headlights. Now I had to take the pictures about 5 minutes apart, but this was the best I could do. I live in NYC and there are street lights everywhere so I had to go to a facility my job has a little away from the house where there are very few lights...

I don't know squat about taking pictures but had some advice about settings so I set up my camera as recommended. The pics were taken in Manual, with ISO400, white balance set to daylight, no flash and an exposure time of 1 second. I also locked the exposure as described in the other thread.

First we have the Halogen headlights:

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And next we have the LED Headlights:

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I think the difference is amazing when compared like this. I had never driven my dads car at night since he bought it. All my cars since 2000 have had HID's in them (except 2001 and half of 2002 when I had a Camaro SS) so I was taken back by how yellow the beam is. It's amazing how one can get so used to the white light of HID/LED's.

The biggest difference naturally is the white light emmitted by the LED's as well as how the light is distributed much wider close to the car. It also looks to me as if the LED's have a bit of a wider spread at a distance. It's almost like the Halogens light up more straight down the middle and the LED's distribute the light evenly across the whole road without a brighter area detected left right or center.

I'm sure there will still be much debate the pro's and con's of halogen vs LED but hey, that's what makes this all so much fun!
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What is involved in making the change to LED or can it even be done? Is it a simple matter of buying and replacing the current bulbs or is there some modification that is necessary to fit the LED into the existing structure? How about price, and where should the LED's be purchased...dealer or auto supply store?
You'll need a complete headlight assembly replacement. On the LS600h L, it's running at $5k.
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Even if it was an even swap.... I honestly don't know if I would consider it.

Its obvious they are close or there wouldn't be such a toss back and forth in the debate.

The warmer color is more natural for the brain to interpret that kelvin as its used to seeing all day long.

If you compare the pics and looks at things the lights could never illuminate "like the sky" you will see the LED pic is brighter.
Is that due to different settings on the camera or earlier in the eve.. I don't know, but without that being the same, its hard to compare the rest.
If fact, if a camera settings are not "fixed" on its Fstop and shutter speed, the camera will adjust the picture darker for the brighter light "in an attempt to make it normal", the result can be the background is darker.

Without knowing if the camera settings are constant, again, its hard to compare.

Even when looking at the pictures, if you stare for long, you will notice the warmer pic is easier on the eyes and "invites" you into the scene.

When you come around a corner and have milliseconds to interpret whether the blob you see on the road is a rock, rabbit, or just a spot or shadow on the road makes a big difference if the brain and make an accurate interpretation quick enough to make an informed reaction.

Sometimes our choice is just personal preference.... like anything else, change is good.... thats why we go to purple and other crazy colors.
Whats safest is not always "funnest".

I do like the Halogens, they put the old halogens of yesteryear to shame... possibly because of how the light is focused. But when high beam is on.. I see "everything".. not just whats down on the ground, but tree tops, limbs, signs etc.

Its quite impressive when I hit the high beams as "all the signs" on the freeway in the distance light up like a neon light.

I don't have LED to compare to, but I still have two GenIIs with HID.

I was one of the worst skeptics when trying to decide whether to take a package IV with Halogen as I didn't trust I would be able to adjust to the lesser light output after being used to the HIDs.
But I'm glad to say... thats a non-issue.
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There's also the self-leveling system to consider - has an additional ECU involved, along w/ wiring and a rear axle height sensor - not a trivial swap unless you leave them adjusted at a fixed middle height.
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I bought the Prius IV and I am extremely disappointed with the headlights. The brightest part seems to be offcenter towards the drivers side, and there is so little light off the front corners of the car that I have trouble parking or even making sharp turns around roads b/c I can't see around the corner. I am very concerned that I will end up hitting curbs and such b/c I can't see where they are.
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I bought the Prius IV and I am extremely disappointed with the headlights. The brightest part seems to be offcenter towards the drivers side, and there is so little light off the front corners of the car that I have trouble parking or even making sharp turns around roads b/c I can't see around the corner. I am very concerned that I will end up hitting curbs and such b/c I can't see where they are.

Wow!.. no kidding?

You better go to the dealer and let them see if there is an issue....
I have none of your complaints nor have noticed anyone else with them.

If anyone else has similar complaints, maybe they can chime in.
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