Slip indicator comes on when at a full stop

[montesalpha]

Originally Posted by meannotgreen

I don't know if there's any reason why you shouldn't do this, but in a stop and creep situation if the road is flat I just flick the shift between D and N and hardly touch the brake at all if I judge the amount of D correctly.

I wouldn't put it in neutral if I were you.

I've had an unexpected stall in the middle of an intersection while NOT playing with ANY of the gears.

In addition, I've experienced the skid indicator coming on totally flat, dry surfaces and *never* coming on while on a steep hill.

[Manolo1]

Why is this showing as pending if it appears to not be an issue?

Hill-start assist control
Hill-start assist control operating conditions
The system operates in the following situations:
• The shift position is in other than "P".
• The parking brake is not applied.
• The accelerator pedal is not depressed.

Hill-start assist control While hill-start assist control is operating, the brakes remain automati-cally applied after the driver releases the brake pedal. The stop lights and the high mounted stoplight turn on. Hill-start assist control operates for about 2 seconds after the brake pedal is released. If the slip indicator does not flash and the buzzer does not sound when the brake pedal is further depressed, slightly reduce the pressure on the brake pedal (do not allow the vehicle to roll backward) and then firmly depress it again. If the system still does not operate, check that the oper-ating conditions explained above have been met.

Hill-start assist control helps to prevent the vehicle from rolling backwards when starting on incline or slippery slope.
To engage hill-start assist con-trol, further depress the brake pedal when the vehicle is stopped completely.
A buzzer will sound once to indicate the system is acti-vated.
The slip indicator will also start flashing

[dbz]

This feature doesn't make sense when you have to press the break beyond the threshold to activate it. How can you do this when you are driving and then here comes a HILL, you pull over to the side, press the brake, :-) ... If it is truly a HILL START ASSIST, should it not automatically detects it like my other German cars or have a button you can press which allows you to activate the HILL START ASSIST to go up the HILL? Like the 'B' button to go down a HILL.

[eglmainz]

Originally Posted by dbz

This feature doesn't make sense when you have to press the break beyond the threshold to activate it. How can you do this when you are driving and then here comes a HILL, you pull over to the side, press the brake, :-) ... If it is truly a HILL START ASSIST, should it not automatically detects it like my other German cars or have a button you can press which allows you to activate the HILL START ASSIST to go up the HILL? Like the 'B' button to go down a HILL.

You can get a German car with a button, or simply keep it simple, and logical like it is in the Prius.

First of all, the only time that you will really need Hill Start Assist is when you are starting from a stopped position, say at the bottom of an incline. The Hill Start Assist is designed to simply hold the car’s position, while you get your foot off the brake, and onto the accelerator, and can overcome gravity to start moving forward, and not inch backwards into the car behind you.

In order to make that happen, all you need to do, when stopped, it press slightly harder on the brake pedal to activate Hill Start Assist. Then, as you let go of the brake pedal, and move your foot over to the accelerator when the light changes to green, the car will not move an inch backwards.

If you would prefer to let go of the steering wheel to locate a button to push, and have that hold your brakes for you, then you should own a German car. Otherwise, I think that Toyota’s implementation of this feature makes a lot more sense then a button.

Additionally, you do not need to use the "B" mode at all for going down a hill, any more than you would need to downshift a 'traditional' car when going downhill. It is there only for those times when a long downhill grade would otherwise overheat and compromise regular braking to maintain speed. Think of it as you do the "2" gear in a automatic transmission.

[dbz]

Then its wrong terminology, it should be START Assist not HILL Assist, then the Prius as implementation is correct. Just like the incorrect terminology they used on the Prius V, Auto LED lights, AUTO means it goes on and off by itself, not manually turn on and auto off. My 2 cents, :-)!

[Tideland Prius]

Originally Posted by dbz

Then its wrong terminology, it should be START Assist not HILL Assist, then the Prius as implementation is correct. Just like the incorrect terminology they used on the Prius V, Auto LED lights, AUTO means it goes on and off by itself, not manually turn on and auto off. My 2 cents, :-)!

how is it wrong terminology? It helps you start on a hill. You press the brake pedal past the thresold so that it'll hold the brakes for you for 2 seconds while you move your foot to the accelerator.

They never said Auto LED lights. They said auto-levelling LED lights. One word makes a difference

Originally Posted by dbz

This feature doesn't make sense when you have to press the break beyond the threshold to activate it. How can you do this when you are driving and then here comes a HILL, you pull over to the side, press the brake, :-) ... If it is truly a HILL START ASSIST, should it not automatically detects it like my other German cars or have a button you can press which allows you to activate the HILL START ASSIST to go up the HILL? Like the 'B' button to go down a HILL.

So how is pressing a button with your finger different from pressing a "button" (the pedal) with your foot? You don't activate it while you're driving (why do you need to?). It's basically to help you so that you don't roll backwards when you're starting uphill. You can have it automatic (like my smart) but then there's always a delay when you're trying to creep along in traffic. I have to remember to let go earlier so that by the time the car in front moves, my hill-start assist disengages and my car moves forward.

[qbee42]

I have to agree: the terminology is fine. I have owned other cars with hill holders, and they all work in a similar fashion.

As for auto headlamps, there are many forms of auto: fully auto, auto on, auto off, and so forth. A modifier might help avoid misunderstandings.

Tom

[eglmainz]

Originally Posted by qbee42

I have to agree: the terminology is fine. I have owned other cars with hill holders, and they all work in a similar fashion.

As for auto headlamps, there are many forms of auto: fully auto, auto on, auto off, and so forth. A modifier might help avoid misunderstandings.

Tom

In the US the term that Toyota uses for these headlights is 'Auto-Levelling LED Headlights". I would say that this term is perfect for what they do.

[Tideland Prius]

Originally Posted by qbee42

I have to agree: the terminology is fine. I have owned other cars with hill holders, and they all work in a similar fashion.

As for auto headlamps, there are many forms of auto: fully auto, auto on, auto off, and so forth. A modifier might help avoid misunderstandings.

Tom

I don't know about the US but in Canada, they use a completely different phrase

Auto OFF = automatic headlamp cancel function
Full AUTO = Light Control System


I don't believe there are any that turn on but don't turn off lol. Most manufacturers would use Auto-OFF headlamps in their brochure if it's not a full automatic function. Oddly enough, the Corolla has:

Daylight Running Lights with Auto On/Off Feature.

That makes NO sense to me because DRLs are auto anyway and the Corolla exhibits the automatic headlight function (i.e. it turns on and off automatically depending on lighting conditions). The only difference is that it doesn't have an AUTO position on the headlight stalk. The "o" position (i.e. OFF) doubles as the auto function. (Similar to the one found on the Gen 4 Camry. THey didn't have an AUTO position either but they had automatic headlights)

[thaotonic]

Originally Posted by quantumslip

yep I've done the same thing too, even on a perfectly flat road

You are pressing too hard on the brakes once the vehicle is at a complete stop. No need to press hard once the vehicle is already at a stop.