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Old 11-04-2009, 11:41 PM   #1
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Is there a hack to add a switch to shut down a car thats in runaway mode?

Almost all automated machines have a Red E-stop Button with a bright yellow background. When all else fails push the Red Button.

If you can shut down the ICE. You would not go far until the battery was discharged.
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Old 11-04-2009, 11:49 PM   #2
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Default Re: The big red E-stop button.

You press and hold the start button for 3 seconds.
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Old 11-05-2009, 12:09 AM   #3
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Default Re: The big red E-stop button.

A big red shutoff button would probably cause more crashes than it would prevent. Earlier versions of the Prius shut down immediately with one press of the power button. This proved to be a problem, and was fixed with a software update. You now need to hold the power button for three seconds. You can also shift to N by holding the shifter at N for a few seconds, shifting to R, or pressing the Park button.

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Old 11-05-2009, 08:22 AM   #4
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Default Re: The big red E-stop button.

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A big red shutoff button would probably cause more crashes than it would prevent. Tom
Yep, and let's not get the Government involved - please.

Next thing you'll know, they will:
Demand sensors around all doors to ensure fingers are out before closure.
Sensors to distinguish alcohol from the driver area disabling Start.
Sensor to disable cell phones when in Drive.
No dark colored cars due to solar gain.
No white colored cars alowed on streets during snow storms.
No green or brown cars in the woods.
Limit the db level of sound system with a window down (hmm, may be a good idea...)
No adjustment of mirrors, seats, tilt steering when in Drive.
Not allowing changes to Nav when in Drive....oh, wait....

Perhaps we should demand a Big Red Button in Congressional Chambers.

Before someone rags on me about the Nav - I know it wasn't Congress/law, but the Legal folks... Just venting a bit.
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Old 11-05-2009, 09:15 AM   #5
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Next thing you'll know, they will:
Demand sensors around all doors to ensure fingers are out before closure.
Sensors to distinguish alcohol from the driver area disabling Start.
Sensor to disable cell phones when in Drive.
No dark colored cars due to solar gain.
No white colored cars alowed on streets during snow storms.
No green or brown cars in the woods.
Limit the db level of sound system with a window down (hmm, may be a good idea...)
No adjustment of mirrors, seats, tilt steering when in Drive.
Not allowing changes to Nav when in Drive....oh, wait....
Thank God I can still text, chat, eat, shave, check my hair AND change clothes all at the same time while driving. DO NOT impend on my rights!!
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Default Re: The big red E-stop button.

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Is there a hack to add a switch to shut down a car thats in runaway mode?

Almost all automated machines have a Red E-stop Button with a bright yellow background. When all else fails push the Red Button.

If you can shut down the ICE. You would not go far until the battery was discharged.
The Prius is not an "automated machine", my driver's seat is not a factory floor, there is no "runaway mode" and this post is a deliberately incendiary bomb that reeks of trollfart.
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Default Re: The big red E-stop button.

I think the "answer" will be something as simple as a reflash that will reduce the ICE to idle whenever the brake pedal is pushed, sort of like how the cruise control is disengaged now.
Lord knows driver education couldn't be the answer.
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Is there a hack to add a switch to shut down a car thats in runaway mode?

Almost all automated machines have a Red E-stop Button with a bright yellow background. When all else fails push the Red Button.

If you can shut down the ICE. You would not go far until the battery was discharged.
I work at an industrial plant full of these Red E-Stop buttons. I fully understand and appreciate the need and intentions for these and personnel safety.

Working on the electrical and controls side of the business, I cannot tell you the number of manhours and downtime that has been spent due to someone inadvertently hitting one of these buttons by mistake. Also the number of hours troubleshooting a percieved problem when someone hits one of these and decides to reset it and run without telling anyone !!

While this may help solve one particular problem, my guess is that it will also create a major headache for others.
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Old 11-05-2009, 10:29 AM   #9
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Default Re: The big red E-stop button.

This may be the dumbest thread I've read on this site.....
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Default Re: The big red E-stop button.

I guess I don't understand what all the fuss is over, to me, it's VERY simple!

If you have a runnaway car/engine, just pull the gearshift to "N" for 2 seconds, and the problem is solved! The engine goes to idle, the power steering and brakes still have power and you just pull the car over and STOP!

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