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Friends: 20 | Hi, Many of us have noticed that the early startup of our Prius leads to an MPG deficit that takes awhile, 4-6 miles, to clear. This is due in part to open-loop fuel burn and warm-up fuel consumption as well as putting a charge back into the traction battery. But I think I'm seeing an approach for rolling in Stage-1A that appears to improve the situation. Ken@Japan defined the term, Stage-1A. None of this data has quantitative numbers, yet, but I wanted to share my impressions. First, my understanding of "Stage-1A:" Stage-1A is the time it takes for the O{2} sensors to begin working and controlling the fuel-air mix and typically lasts 45-60 seconds. During this time the engine runs a rich mixture and if the Prius accelerates, most of the motive power comes from the traction battery. Different models of Prius behave differently during this phase:The advantage of staying in "P" for the ZVW30 is this keeps the engine power demand at a minimum. The overly rich fuel burn is not compounded by asking for more ICE power in this open-loop mode. However, the NHW11 does not auto-stop the engine at the end of Stage-1A. With the NHW11, I found that a better strategy in Stage-1A is:
Designing a good experiment will take a little time but I noticed the effect on our ZVW30 and early use of "N" during the first minute of operation. Bob Wilson |
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Friends: 6 | The Gen III will stop the ICE everytime at 101F-103F. It is the end of S-1 in the Gen III. From there as it warms up, it seems to be the opposite of Gen II. As the Gen III wrms up, it will allow glides below 34 MPH but not above 34 MPH. The warm up stages are different and it would be good if someone could document them. Last edited by bestmapman; 10-07-2009 at 11:06 AM. |
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