Anything you like better about the G1 over the G2 Prius?

[Synergy]

Originally Posted by ChapmanF

My favorite thing about the G1 appearance? People by now are used to the G2 look, so a G1 is a stealth hybrid - some of your friends won't even know they're getting into a hybrid until it's TOO LATE! Bu-wahahahahahahaaaaaaaaa!

-Chap

ROFLMAO

[Optimus]

Originally Posted by ScubaGypsy

- My G1 has a dealer installed sunroof that they can't put on the G2 because G2 doesn't have the structural support

Do you happen to know the brand and model # of that sunroof? I was under the impression that sunroofs were not possible in the G1's either.

[bwilson4web]

• Graham miniscanner
• No warranty fears (they've expired)
• Toyota SAE paper on improvements of G2 over G1

Bob Wilson

[Devil's Advocate]

The G1 color - "Blue Ice", it was cool.

[ScubaGypsy]

Originally Posted by Optimus

Do you happen to know the brand and model # of that sunroof? I was under the impression that sunroofs were not possible in the G1's either.

I'm sorry but I don't know. My dealer was Toyota of Newport (888.234.7014) and it was a popular add-on as I have a friend that also took delivery of his 2003 with it. They also added in leather seats which have held up wonderfully.

[RinMI]

I own a G2, but there is a G1 that I see quite often when I go to my sons' baseball games. While I do applaud the G1 for it's "traditional" sedan design; I specifically bought the G2 because it is a hatchback design and the seats fold down. When I compared the G2 to the other competitors (Civic Hybrid) I liked that the Civic looked like a regular car but the fact that the seats did not fold down due to battery placement decisions was the nail in the coffin that got me to choose the G2. If I could fit my family and my drum kit in a G1 at the same time, you can bet I would have done so.

That said, if we (G2 owners) have come across that way, I am sure it was purely unintentional and for myself, I apologize for any negative comments against the G1 that I may have made. The G2 owners should not downplay or denigrate the G1. For without the G1, we would not have our G2s. And thank you to the early adopters that were willing to take a chance on a dream. Without the G1s and their owners; Toyota may have decided to take a different road and abandoned the hybrid concept altogether.

[ChapmanF]

Judging by the recent "lost front brakes" thread over in Technical, where the G2 brake bleeding instructions got posted, I think I like the G1 better for brake work. Yikes!

If I can trust the G1 manual here (no direct experience yet), a THHT is still involved, but only in one step, to actuate one solenoid. For the G2 it looks like the THHT is the only thing that knows what the dickens you're supposed to be doing.

-Chap

[Patrick Wong]

I flushed the brake fluid in my 2001 last year without using THHT. My procedure was to first use a rubber squeeze bulb to suck out as much of the old fluid in the reservoir as I could reach. Then I refilled the reservoir with new fluid.

I made the Prius IG-ON and had my wife gently press the brake pedal slightly. I cracked opened each wheel cylinder bleed valve in turn, with a vinyl tube leading to a collection jar, starting from the right rear, and a tremendous flow of fluid came out. Then I tightened the valve before she let go of the brake pedal. Refilled the reservoir, then moved on to the next wheel, etc. I used two small containers of Toyota DOT3 fluid.

I agree that THHT will be required if you allow air into the system upstream of the wheel cylinders.

[tochatihu]

If you allow air into the brake lines, then you need the Special Hybrid Integrated Tester.



Patrick did you happen to get a % water content on the old brake fluid?

[ChapmanF]

Originally Posted by tochatihu

If you allow air into the brake lines, then you need the Special Hybrid Integrated Tester.

Even better, then. We have a lot at work.

-Chap