Am I even welcome here?

338sniper · 10-08-2009, 10:54 PM

Every other thread I read is about some troll, or newbies getting banned. What did they do, what do I do to stay out of trouble? Stay away from the politcs section?

Not sure if I want a prius, but I do not want to be labled as a troll for being here.

Edit, I think I will just go away.

akamekon · 10-08-2009, 10:58 PM

The reason trolls and newbies at any forum get banned is because they don't read the rules, and subsequently break them. Make sure you read stickies and announcements, observe a general decency, and I'm sure you'll be fine. :-)

hyo silver · 10-08-2009, 11:05 PM

Why would you not be welcome? If you're interested in the Prius, this is the place.

And yes, staying away from the politics forum is probably a good idea, at least until you've got your feet wet. Jumping headlong into fast moving water is generally not advisable.

EJFB1029 · 10-08-2009, 11:09 PM

Lets see, don't have a Prius, not sure he wants a Prius, but wants into the political forum of PriusChat, so how is he going to learn if he wants a Prius from the political forum?

john1701a · 10-08-2009, 11:12 PM

If you post something that's nothing but an insult, without anything constructive, you probably will get labeled.

If you simply ask questions and share experiences, you'll blend into the crowd along with the other 57,408 members.
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akamekon · 10-08-2009, 11:14 PM

Also, just from looking at your other posts... You can change your avatar by clicking "User CP" on top and then "Edit Avatar" on the menu on the left. That is probably a question more appropriate for the newbie forum.

338sniper · 10-08-2009, 11:21 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by EJFB1029

Lets see, don't have a Prius, not sure he wants a Prius, but wants into the political forum of PriusChat, so how is he going to learn if he wants a Prius from the political forum?

Where did I say that? Where did I post anything about wanting to go in there? I'll bet my bottom dollar your in there stiring the pot. But whatever, I can see I ask a question, and get bashed, you guys enjoy your site.

**efusco** · 10-08-2009, 11:34 PM

Why wouldn't you be welcome, what would make you concerned? If you're not interested in political discussions you're more than welcome. As John pointed out, we have a lot of members and many very active. It's but a few trolls and troublemakers that've come along, as happens on occasion, that make things more difficult for everyone in a sad windmill tilting effort to disrupt the site.
If you're not someone like that then we'll welcome you warmly into a very active, informative, and friendly site.

Mike Dimmick · 10-09-2009, 08:38 AM

Unfortunately we've been burned way too frequently by people - and it may well be astroturfing - posting nonsense to try to put other casual readers off the Prius or hybrids in general. It means that some regular posters' troll-detectors go off prematurely, when an honest newbie who's just trying to find out information posts something from the mainstream that's incorrect, or at least doesn't tell the whole story.

The cars aren't perfect - no car could be, as everyone's definition of perfection is different - and there are bugs and failures. But it is, in my view, a very good all-round vehicle with generally very good reliability. As always, we tend to only hear of the problems. People with thousands of miles of trouble-free running often don't even come here, or if they do, maybe don't post that much - others who have that experience can maybe be too skeptical of a reported problem.

**TonyPSchaefer** · 10-09-2009, 08:57 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by EJFB1029

Lets see, don't have a Prius, not sure he wants a Prius, but wants into the political forum of PriusChat, so how is he going to learn if he wants a Prius from the political forum?

Let's check the records:
About joinging Fred's House of Politics

Quote:

Originally Posted by 338sniper

To be honest, I lurked here for a bit and because of this thread, I thought I would actually make a log in, but once I did, I figured I would just stay away from that section. Keep myself out of trouble. We have enough of those discussions at work, don't need to do it on the Internet. Real easy to be a keyboard Rambo.

I thought this section was about pancakes in general, like recipes or something, boy was I wrong.

and about researching the Prius:

Quote:

Originally Posted by 338sniper

Well I have a long commute to work, about 50 miles each way. Right now I have a F-150 for the family to get around, but I want a commuter.

What's worse? The spammer that gets banned by us Mods or the regular members who are chasing away new members? In my opinion, they are equal. I happily hand out infractions to the spammers and trolls and am seriously considering handing out infractions and suspensions to anyone who thinks it's their job to start going "McCarthy" on everyone else.

10-08-2009, 10:54 PM	#1
338sniper Junior Member Join Date: Oct 2009 Location: N.Carolina Posts: 15 My Car: 2008 Prius Model: N/A Package: N/A Thanks: 0 Thanked 0 Times in 0 Posts Friends: 0	Am I even welcome here? Every other thread I read is about some troll, or newbies getting banned. What did they do, what do I do to stay out of trouble? Stay away from the politcs section? Not sure if I want a prius, but I do not want to be labled as a troll for being here. Edit, I think I will just go away.

10-08-2009, 10:58 PM	#2
akamekon Junior Member Join Date: Sep 2009 Location: Corona, CA Posts: 13 My Car: Other Non-Hybrid Model: N/A Package: N/A Thanks: 0 Thanked 0 Times in 0 Posts Friends: 0	Re: Am I even welcome here? The reason trolls and newbies at any forum get banned is because they don't read the rules, and subsequently break them. Make sure you read stickies and announcements, observe a general decency, and I'm sure you'll be fine. :-)

10-08-2009, 11:09 PM	#4
EJFB1029 Senior Member Join Date: Jan 2008 Location: Corpus Christi, Republic of Texas Posts: 4,525 My Car: 2008 Prius Model: Package: #6 Touring Thanks: 186 Thanked 167 Times in 119 Posts Friends: 3	Re: Am I even welcome here? Lets see, don't have a Prius, not sure he wants a Prius, but wants into the political forum of PriusChat, so how is he going to learn if he wants a Prius from the political forum?

10-08-2009, 11:12 PM	#5
john1701a Senior Member Join Date: Jan 2004 Location: Minnesota Posts: 3,378 My Car: 2010 Prius Model: IV Package: Solar Roof Thanks: 9 Thanked 145 Times in 70 Posts Friends: 12	Re: Am I even welcome here? If you post something that's nothing but an insult, without anything constructive, you probably will get labeled. If you simply ask questions and share experiences, you'll blend into the crowd along with the other 57,408 members. .

10-08-2009, 11:14 PM	#6
akamekon Junior Member Join Date: Sep 2009 Location: Corona, CA Posts: 13 My Car: Other Non-Hybrid Model: N/A Package: N/A Thanks: 0 Thanked 0 Times in 0 Posts Friends: 0	Re: Am I even welcome here? Also, just from looking at your other posts... You can change your avatar by clicking "User CP" on top and then "Edit Avatar" on the menu on the left. That is probably a question more appropriate for the newbie forum.

10-08-2009, 11:05 PM	#3
hyo silver awaaay Join Date: Mar 2005 Location: Vancouver, BC Posts: 10,733 My Car: 2004 Prius Model: Package: Base Thanks: 47 Thanked 153 Times in 108 Posts Friends: 63	Why would you not be welcome? If you're interested in the Prius, this is the place. And yes, staying away from the politics forum is probably a good idea, at least until you've got your feet wet. Jumping headlong into fast moving water is generally not advisable.

10-08-2009, 11:34 PM	#8
efusco Troll Slayer Join Date: Nov 2003 Location: Nixa, MO Posts: 17,250 My Car: 2004 Prius Model: Package: #9 Thanks: 50 Thanked 261 Times in 157 Posts Friends: 37	Re: Am I even welcome here? Why wouldn't you be welcome, what would make you concerned? If you're not interested in political discussions you're more than welcome. As John pointed out, we have a lot of members and many very active. It's but a few trolls and troublemakers that've come along, as happens on occasion, that make things more difficult for everyone in a sad windmill tilting effort to disrupt the site. If you're not someone like that then we'll welcome you warmly into a very active, informative, and friendly site.

10-09-2009, 08:38 AM	#9
Mike Dimmick Senior Member Join Date: Aug 2008 Location: Reading, UK Posts: 700 My Car: 2008 Prius Model: Package: T3 Thanks: 7 Thanked 108 Times in 69 Posts Friends: 0	Re: Am I even welcome here? Unfortunately we've been burned way too frequently by people - and it may well be astroturfing - posting nonsense to try to put other casual readers off the Prius or hybrids in general. It means that some regular posters' troll-detectors go off prematurely, when an honest newbie who's just trying to find out information posts something from the mainstream that's incorrect, or at least doesn't tell the whole story. The cars aren't perfect - no car could be, as everyone's definition of perfection is different - and there are bugs and failures. But it is, in my view, a very good all-round vehicle with generally very good reliability. As always, we tend to only hear of the problems. People with thousands of miles of trouble-free running often don't even come here, or if they do, maybe don't post that much - others who have that experience can maybe be too skeptical of a reported problem.