Road ahead for automotive industry still bumpy

Rancid13 · 01-19-2006, 05:26 PM

Road ahead for automotive industry still bumpy

Detroit faces difficult union negotiations in 2006; must make dazzling cars

By Roland Jones
Business editor
MSNBC
Updated: 2:53 p.m. ET Jan. 19, 2006

From sinking sales to job cuts by the thousands, it’s safe to say that 2005 was a dreadful year for the American automotive business. Will 2006 be any better? Detroit certainly hopes so. But some industry observers say that despite new vehicles and far-reaching restructuring plans, serious challenges remain for America’s big automakers.

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skruse · 01-19-2006, 05:36 PM

American automobile manufacturers do not "get it." Until we are offered vehicles that follow "form follows function," and are innovative, Detroit will continue to be bumpy. Detroit needs to be genuinely innovative - offering vehicles that are ZEVs, require minimal maintenance, can be powered from renewable sources, have a high safety record and are appealing.

I find much of what I seek in Prius - a first step. I look forward to the ZEV Prius that I can plug in to recharge from photovoltaic panels - and 99% by pass fossil fuels. Detroit continues to produce vehicles that have adverse emission impacts, continue to idle when standing still, require fossil fuels and are built around planned obselescence.

2Hybrids · 01-19-2006, 05:43 PM

They need that "wow" factor that no other car company has done and take that first step. Then, following purchase, it needs to be followed up with some serious "red carpet" service and reliability.

And by wow factor, I'm not talking about more horsepower, 0-70 in 3 seconds thing that they think we are wowed by. I'm talking about technology, better fuel efficiency, smaller footprint, asthetically pleasing, and priced between $10,000 - 25,000.

SomervillePrius · 01-19-2006, 05:48 PM

Yeah, I think the american market might be (finally) "catching up" with the european and asian market. Smaller more fuel efficient cars that require minimal maintainence.

But I'm not convinced that the Prius and hybrids is a trend and not a fad. I think the market for SUV's will soon rebound because we all really need to look like sub-urban soccer moms right? (I know the image is of the big though guys but really they are all mini-vans in disguise).

I must confess that I was lured by the comercials for 0-60 not long ago.

**Tideland Prius** · 01-19-2006, 09:11 PM

not really. I like minivans cause they're practical and you get a lotta stuff for the money you pay. Try pricing a similar SUV and you won't get the same features (usually less). The closest I think of is a Sienna XLE Limited AWD vs. MDX with Tech Package. The Sienna has an edge with laser cruise control and more room for the 3rd row as well as rear sunshades and power sliding rear doors.

01-19-2006, 05:36 PM	#2
skruse Senior Member Join Date: Apr 2004 Location: Great Central Valley, Fresno, CA Posts: 1,135 My Car: 2007 Prius Package: #6 Touring Nominated 0 Times in 0 Posts TOTM Awards: 0 Friends: 2	American automobile manufacturers do not "get it." Until we are offered vehicles that follow "form follows function," and are innovative, Detroit will continue to be bumpy. Detroit needs to be genuinely innovative - offering vehicles that are ZEVs, require minimal maintenance, can be powered from renewable sources, have a high safety record and are appealing. I find much of what I seek in Prius - a first step. I look forward to the ZEV Prius that I can plug in to recharge from photovoltaic panels - and 99% by pass fossil fuels. Detroit continues to produce vehicles that have adverse emission impacts, continue to idle when standing still, require fossil fuels and are built around planned obselescence. __________________ Touring 2007 Silver AM w/ 6-CD, Sirius satellite - J MUIR Trek 5200 & Trek 2300, Scanguage II Least cost, end use vs. least cost, first use

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SomervillePrius Senior Member Join Date: Jan 2006 Location: Somerville, MA Posts: 946 My Car: 2006 Prius Package: #9 Nominated 0 Times in 0 Posts TOTM Awards: 0 Friends: 0	Yeah, I think the american market might be (finally) "catching up" with the european and asian market. Smaller more fuel efficient cars that require minimal maintainence. But I'm not convinced that the Prius and hybrids is a trend and not a fad. I think the market for SUV's will soon rebound because we all really need to look like sub-urban soccer moms right? (I know the image is of the big though guys but really they are all mini-vans in disguise). I must confess that I was lured by the comercials for 0-60 not long ago. __________________ help start a revolution! Demand PLUG IN Hybrids to be built today!

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Rancid13 Cool Chick with a Black Prius Join Date: Aug 2005 Location: Los Alamitos, Orange County, CA Posts: 2,455 My Car: 2006 Prius Package: #8 Nominated 0 Times in 0 Posts TOTM Awards: 0 Friends: 2	Road ahead for automotive industry still bumpy Detroit faces difficult union negotiations in 2006; must make dazzling cars By Roland Jones Business editor MSNBC Updated: 2:53 p.m. ET Jan. 19, 2006 From sinking sales to job cuts by the thousands, it’s safe to say that 2005 was a dreadful year for the American automotive business. Will 2006 be any better? Detroit certainly hopes so. But some industry observers say that despite new vehicles and far-reaching restructuring plans, serious challenges remain for America’s big automakers. Full Article

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2Hybrids 100% Committed Join Date: Sep 2005 Location: Eustis, Florida Posts: 567 My Car: Package: Nominated 0 Times in 0 Posts TOTM Awards: 0 Friends: 0	They need that "wow" factor that no other car company has done and take that first step. Then, following purchase, it needs to be followed up with some serious "red carpet" service and reliability. And by wow factor, I'm not talking about more horsepower, 0-70 in 3 seconds thing that they think we are wowed by. I'm talking about technology, better fuel efficiency, smaller footprint, asthetically pleasing, and priced between $10,000 - 25,000.

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Tideland Prius Super Moderator Join Date: Oct 2004 Location: Canada Posts: 13,932 My Car: 2005 Prius Package: B Nominated 0 Times in 0 Posts TOTM Awards: 0 Friends: 11	not really. I like minivans cause they're practical and you get a lotta stuff for the money you pay. Try pricing a similar SUV and you won't get the same features (usually less). The closest I think of is a Sienna XLE Limited AWD vs. MDX with Tech Package. The Sienna has an edge with laser cruise control and more room for the 3rd row as well as rear sunshades and power sliding rear doors.