GM to build dedicated hybrid

zenMachine · 07-13-2009, 03:26 PM

"What we are trying to work towards is 'Yes,' we will have other hybrid vehicles (besides the Volt) but we are trying to work towards a dedicated hybrid," Ed Peper, GM's general manager of Chevrolet, told GM-Volt.com, a site not affiliated with GM. "We think that's probably a better way for us to go longer term."

... The fuel economy with the new hybrid system will be on the order of 20 percent compared to the gasoline-only versions, he added. Rather than nickel metal hydride batteries, the newer hybrid system will use lithium-ion batteries supplied by Hitachi.

"This future system will have the capability to work over a wider range of vehicles," he said.

GM eyes revamped hybrid power train for sedans | Green Tech - CNET News

john1701a · 07-13-2009, 03:53 PM

This is nothing new.

In fact, the old GM had been saying the same thing for several years. I guess we have to tolerate the new GM having turned back the clock and relive the promises all over again.

What's different now?
.

daniel · 07-13-2009, 08:54 PM

What's the difference between a "dedicated" hybrid and a real hybrid?

FL_Prius_Driver · 07-13-2009, 09:56 PM

I would assume a dedicated model, not a modification of an existing model. What Toyota did 10 years ago and Honda reestablished this year.

a_gray_prius · 07-13-2009, 11:47 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by daniel

What's the difference between a "dedicated" hybrid and a real hybrid?

It's like the difference between a "dedicated" red herring and a real red herring.

justlurkin · 07-14-2009, 12:40 AM

OK, so GM wants to develop a dedicated hybrid that gets "20 percent better fuel economy" than a comparable gasoline-only car.

I can see it now. They come out with a 6,000-pound SUV with no gasoline-only version, and it gets 12MPG when a comparable gasoline-only one gets 10MPG (oh, and at a $10,000 premium). "See? We promised a 20% improvement and we delivered!" And GM management will still be scratching their heads when it doesn't sell.

FL_Prius_Driver · 07-14-2009, 05:39 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by a_gray_prius

It's like the difference between a "dedicated" red herring and a real red herring.

Quote of the week.

**TonyPSchaefer** · 07-14-2009, 07:44 PM

Those who do not study the past are destined to repeat it.

Here's another press release declaring something GM is going to do. There is no work to show and no results of tests; simply a statement. And this statement is meant to show the progress GM is making.

Allow me to say once again : SHOW ME THE CAR NOT THE HYPE!!!

acdii · 07-15-2009, 01:04 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by justlurkin

OK, so GM wants to develop a dedicated hybrid that gets "20 percent better fuel economy" than a comparable gasoline-only car.

I can see it now. They come out with a 6,000-pound SUV with no gasoline-only version, and it gets 12MPG when a comparable gasoline-only one gets 10MPG (oh, and at a $10,000 premium). "See? We promised a 20% improvement and we delivered!" And GM management will still be scratching their heads when it doesn't sell.

Sorta like the existing "hybrids" they were selling? Oh wait, GM calls them hybrids, I forgot, they are Electric Assist versions of current models.

So where is the Volt? Did it get Zapped? Does it need a recharge? This is lolicous!!

bestmapman · 07-15-2009, 01:53 PM

How can you tell if GM is lying.

They put out a press release.

07-13-2009, 03:26 PM	#1
zenMachine Just another Onionhead Join Date: Mar 2007 Location: Texas Posts: 1,985 My Car: 2007 Prius Model: Package: #3 Thanks: 5 Thanked 15 Times in 11 Posts Friends: 0	GM to build dedicated hybrid "What we are trying to work towards is 'Yes,' we will have other hybrid vehicles (besides the Volt) but we are trying to work towards a dedicated hybrid," Ed Peper, GM's general manager of Chevrolet, told GM-Volt.com, a site not affiliated with GM. "We think that's probably a better way for us to go longer term." ... The fuel economy with the new hybrid system will be on the order of 20 percent compared to the gasoline-only versions, he added. Rather than nickel metal hydride batteries, the newer hybrid system will use lithium-ion batteries supplied by Hitachi. "This future system will have the capability to work over a wider range of vehicles," he said. GM eyes revamped hybrid power train for sedans \| Green Tech - CNET News

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john1701a Senior Member Join Date: Jan 2004 Location: Minnesota Posts: 3,377 My Car: 2010 Prius Model: IV Package: Solar Roof Thanks: 9 Thanked 145 Times in 70 Posts Friends: 12	Re: GM to build dedicated hybrid This is nothing new. In fact, the old GM had been saying the same thing for several years. I guess we have to tolerate the new GM having turned back the clock and relive the promises all over again. What's different now? .

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daniel Cat Lovers Against the Bomb Join Date: Feb 2004 Location: Spokane, WA Posts: 11,278 My Car: 2004 Prius Model: Package: #6 Thanks: 59 Thanked 201 Times in 127 Posts Friends: 0	Re: GM to build dedicated hybrid What's the difference between a "dedicated" hybrid and a real hybrid?

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FL_Prius_Driver Senior Member Join Date: Jun 2007 Location: Tampa Bay Posts: 1,845 My Car: 2001 Prius Model: Package: N/A Thanks: 4 Thanked 17 Times in 16 Posts Friends: 2	Re: GM to build dedicated hybrid I would assume a dedicated model, not a modification of an existing model. What Toyota did 10 years ago and Honda reestablished this year.

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justlurkin Señor Member Join Date: Sep 2007 Location: Long Island, NY Posts: 315 My Car: 2007 Prius Model: N/A Package: #2 Thanks: 2 Thanked 11 Times in 9 Posts Friends: 1	Re: GM to build dedicated hybrid OK, so GM wants to develop a dedicated hybrid that gets "20 percent better fuel economy" than a comparable gasoline-only car. I can see it now. They come out with a 6,000-pound SUV with no gasoline-only version, and it gets 12MPG when a comparable gasoline-only one gets 10MPG (oh, and at a $10,000 premium). "See? We promised a 20% improvement and we delivered!" And GM management will still be scratching their heads when it doesn't sell.

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TonyPSchaefer Your Friendly Moderator Join Date: May 2004 Location: Far-North Chicagoland Posts: 10,512 My Car: 2004 Prius Model: Package: #9 Thanks: 39 Thanked 168 Times in 109 Posts Friends: 23	Re: GM to build dedicated hybrid Those who do not study the past are destined to repeat it. Here's another press release declaring something GM is going to do. There is no work to show and no results of tests; simply a statement. And this statement is meant to show the progress GM is making. Allow me to say once again : SHOW ME THE CAR NOT THE HYPE!!!

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bestmapman "Dream" Prius Join Date: Apr 2007 Location: Cincinnati, KY Posts: 989 My Car: 2007 Prius Model: Package: #2 Thanks: 3 Thanked 35 Times in 23 Posts Friends: 6	Re: GM to build dedicated hybrid How can you tell if GM is lying. They put out a press release.

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