4th Generation Prius?

michaelcox · 05-30-2006, 03:02 AM

According to http://www.autoexpress.co.uk/news/66260/pr...its_113mpg.html, Toyota engineers are trying to make "The firm's next Prius... so efficient it will be the first production car capable of returning more than 110mpg. The newcomer is being developed to try to improve European sales. While the car has been a success in the US, it has met a mixed reaction on this side of the Atlantic, due to the popularity of diesel models.

But now we've been told that engineers working on the new Prius have a fuel economy target of 40km/litre - a mind-boggling 113mpg."

They are also trying to get the zero to 62 a second faster too.

Hopefully we get that new one over hear in the States too in 2008. I'd imagine that this would be the 4th Generation Prius.

etyler88 · 05-30-2006, 10:25 AM

I am drooling! Go Toyota. If that thing comes out nobody could trash talk the car. It would be unbelieveable. It won't replace every vehicle but fine. Future is looking good. Plus by 2008 the Gen I & II will have a big proven track record for reliability.

pollibird · 05-30-2006, 12:15 PM

It would be great if lithiumion batts. could replace the "old" Ni-MH batt. when they wear out.
By the time Toyota gets the new style batt. ready for market, owners of older style prius'
should opt for the best available. I would.

**TonyPSchaefer** · 05-30-2006, 12:23 PM

That's great!
Then in late 2011, when I'm about ready to trade in Priapus, I can upgrade to a 150MPG model.

jbarnhart · 05-30-2006, 03:34 PM

Be aware that the 110 mpg estimate is based on JAPAN's test of fuel economy, not the US test. I think on the Japanese version of the test our 2006 Prius gets something like 80-90 mpg, so we're not talking about doubling fuel economy here...

michaelcox · 05-30-2006, 08:58 PM

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Be aware that the 110 mpg estimate is based on JAPAN's test of fuel economy, not the US test. I think on the Japanese version of the test our 2006 Prius gets something like 80-90 mpg, so we're not talking about doubling fuel economy here...
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Even still, that is a 20 or 30 miles per gallon increase for the Japanese version. What would that be in the US? 80 or 90 mpg? That is still a great improvement.

ken1784 · 05-30-2006, 09:18 PM

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Even still, that is a 20 or 30 miles per gallon increase for the Japanese version. What would that be in the US? 80 or 90 mpg? That is still a great improvement.
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This is an old news...
http://priuschat.com/index.php?showtopic=18242&st=42
And, Toyota's target is 12.7% increase, which means 62 mpg combined.

Ken@Japan

clett · 05-31-2006, 05:44 AM

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And, Toyota's target is 12.7% increase, which means 62 mpg combined.
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Plus whatever electric mileage you can manage from plugging in at night to use the 9-mile all-electric range that senior engineers say will be a feature of 2008 Prius.

For many people with short commutes this could mean 100 mpg average, plus 20 cents per night electricity costs.

ken1784 · 05-31-2006, 06:09 AM

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Plus whatever electric mileage you can manage from plugging in at night to use the 9-mile all-electric range that senior engineers say will be a feature of 2008 Prius.

For many people with short commutes this could mean 100 mpg average, plus 20 cents per night electricity costs.
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It looks Japanese 10-15 mode test requires the same SOC level between start and end of tests.
Anyone knows for the US EPA tests?

Ken@Japan

ServoScanMan · 05-31-2006, 06:18 AM

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According to http://www.autoexpress.co.uk/news/66260/pr...its_113mpg.html, Toyota engineers are trying to make "The firm's next Prius... so efficient it will be the first production car capable of returning more than 110mpg. The newcomer is being developed to try to improve European sales. While the car has been a success in the US, it has met a mixed reaction on this side of the Atlantic, due to the popularity of diesel models.

But now we've been told that engineers working on the new Prius have a fuel economy target of 40km/litre - a mind-boggling 113mpg."

They are also trying to get the zero to 62 a second faster too.

Hopefully we get that new one over hear in the States too in 2008. I'd imagine that this would be the 4th Generation Prius.
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Would this be a 3rd generation Prius?

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05-30-2006, 03:02 AM	#1
michaelcox Join Date: May 2006 Posts: 10 My Car: Model: Package: Thanks: 0 Thanked 0 Times in 0 Posts Friends: 0	According to http://www.autoexpress.co.uk/news/66260/pr...its_113mpg.html, Toyota engineers are trying to make "The firm's next Prius... so efficient it will be the first production car capable of returning more than 110mpg. The newcomer is being developed to try to improve European sales. While the car has been a success in the US, it has met a mixed reaction on this side of the Atlantic, due to the popularity of diesel models. But now we've been told that engineers working on the new Prius have a fuel economy target of 40km/litre - a mind-boggling 113mpg." They are also trying to get the zero to 62 a second faster too. Hopefully we get that new one over hear in the States too in 2008. I'd imagine that this would be the 4th Generation Prius.

05-30-2006, 10:25 AM	#2
etyler88 etyler88 Join Date: Mar 2005 Location: Dover, DE Posts: 450 My Car: 2005 Prius Model: Package: #3 Thanks: 0 Thanked 0 Times in 0 Posts Friends: 1	I am drooling! Go Toyota. If that thing comes out nobody could trash talk the car. It would be unbelieveable. It won't replace every vehicle but fine. Future is looking good. Plus by 2008 the Gen I & II will have a big proven track record for reliability.

05-30-2006, 12:15 PM	#3
pollibird Join Date: Oct 2005 Posts: 6 My Car: Model: Package: Thanks: 0 Thanked 0 Times in 0 Posts Friends: 0	It would be great if lithiumion batts. could replace the "old" Ni-MH batt. when they wear out. By the time Toyota gets the new style batt. ready for market, owners of older style prius' should opt for the best available. I would.

05-30-2006, 12:23 PM	#4
TonyPSchaefer Your Friendly Moderator Join Date: May 2004 Location: Far-North Chicagoland Posts: 10,498 My Car: 2004 Prius Model: Package: #9 Thanks: 39 Thanked 165 Times in 106 Posts Friends: 23	That's great! Then in late 2011, when I'm about ready to trade in Priapus, I can upgrade to a 150MPG model.

05-30-2006, 03:34 PM	#5
jbarnhart Senior Member Join Date: Jan 2004 Location: Santa Clara, CA Posts: 629 My Car: Model: Package: Thanks: 0 Thanked 0 Times in 0 Posts Friends: 1	Be aware that the 110 mpg estimate is based on JAPAN's test of fuel economy, not the US test. I think on the Japanese version of the test our 2006 Prius gets something like 80-90 mpg, so we're not talking about doubling fuel economy here...