The "Next-Generation" Toyota Prius (2008-2009)

[DerekLarsson]

AutoExpress UK reported that Toyota is planning on coming out
with a "next-generation" Prius that will get approx. 90 usa-MPG
using lithium ion cells sometime perhaps as early as late-2008
(it would be a "2009" model). link: http://www.autoexpress.co.uk/news/autoexpr...its_113mpg.html

This story appeared in the AutoExpress UK once and there have
been a few other Auto-related blogs that have made reference
to that same one report as well.

However, I have not seen this story corroborated by any
actual second or third reports confirming the story.

Perhaps Toyota is keeping this pretty hush-hush because they
do not want to disrupt the current model sales before the new version
is ready.

But I wanted to see if anyone here knew of any additional details
or additional reports about the new Prius plans and whether Toyota
is really going to follow through and have it ready by year 2008.

Also, would they make a USA version the same time as a UK version
and have it to market then-?


Any genuine info on this subject would be useful ...


Thanks...


- Derek

[jbarnhart]

The milage figures quoted by Toyota are for a Japanese fuel economy test. The current Prius gets something like 90mpg on that test, so don't get TOO excited about seeing numbers like "113mpg". Still, it will have better economy and higher performance -- it will be a very worthy successor to the current generation.

[Tideland Prius]

Not to mention 113 mpg imperial

[burritos]

<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE(jbarnhart @ Jul 7 2006, 08:00 PM) [snapback]282787[/snapback]</div>

The milage figures quoted by Toyota are for a Japanese fuel economy test. The current Prius gets something like 90mpg on that test, so don't get TOO excited about seeing numbers like "113mpg". Still, it will have better economy and higher performance -- it will be a very worthy successor to the current generation.
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Wonder if it's going to be more expensive. If not there's going to be some buyers remorse going around.

[jbarnhart]

<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE(burritos @ Jul 8 2006, 04:03 PM) [snapback]283104[/snapback]</div>

Wonder if it's going to be more expensive. If not there's going to be some buyers remorse going around.
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Not for those who upgrade!

[DerekLarsson]

<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE(jbarnhart @ Jul 7 2006, 09:00 PM) [snapback]282787[/snapback]</div>

The milage figures quoted by Toyota are for a Japanese fuel economy test. The current Prius gets something like 90mpg on that test, so don't get TOO excited about seeing numbers like "113mpg". Still, it will have better economy and higher performance -- it will be a very worthy successor to the current generation.
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The point was made clear in the article (from April) that the 113MPG was
not based on USA standards -- and that the equivalent fuel economy for
this new Model based on USA standards would be about 94MPG-usa.
So, that's why I referred to it as "approx. 90MPG".

So, the issue here is not the actual MPG rating itself .. (the article
provided the USA conversion for us) -- but rather, I am
looking for more corroboration, more additional reports, or additional
details about when Toyota will actually produce this Model for
the USA Market.

Is this just a speculative article -- or is this really happening and when-?

[efusco]

Right now nobody knows....well, somebody does, but noone that's allowed to say it publicly.

The source for that story is a question-mark. Nothing official has been released. If/when it is you'll see it here as soon as anywhere, rest assured on that.

[ken1784]

I'm tired to tell Toyota's target is 40km/L Japanese 10-15 mode test and it is EPA 62mpg combined mileage.
http://priuschat.com/index.php?showtopic=20195&st=6

Ken@Japan

[rudiger]

Is that a 25% increase?

[jbarnhart]

<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE(DerekLarsson @ Jul 8 2006, 08:51 PM) [snapback]283208[/snapback]</div>

The point was made clear in the article (from April) that the 113MPG was
not based on USA standards -- and that the equivalent fuel economy for
this new Model based on USA standards would be about 94MPG-usa.
So, that's why I referred to it as "approx. 90MPG".
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You're not reading carefully.

The milage for TODAY'S Prius -- i.e. the one in my garage now -- tested in the same Japanese fuel-economy test, is about 90 mpg. Sure, the next one will be better. Maybe even 15% better (although that's a stretch). But don't expect any EPA test showing the new Prius getting anywhere close to 90 mpg.