Nissan to abandon Toyota HSD - LiIon plug-in hybrid by 2010 instead

[naterprius]

Okay, jonnycat, I am officially labeling you a GM fanboi. 1701 delivers facts and you call it FUD. Do you even own a Prius?

I have driven just about every hybrid on the road and the only ones that are truly impressive are from Toyota, and for the reasons 1701 has described.

Nate

[Tideland Prius]

nater, he does own one and plans to get rid of it as soon as the competition catches up.

Nushrike, I'm not sure and I hope not. They had a chance with the EV1.

[konakahuna]

longtime saab enthusiasts know that the day GM bought into saab was the beginning of the end for one of the scrappiest and most innovative car companies around. a short list of notable advances include:

1) aerodynamic testing - saab, being an aircraft company before moving into cars understood the value of reducing drag to improve efficiency. the 1950 saab 92 had a Cd of .30 - better than a ferrari f40

2) crash testing - early models were driven off the 2 story roof of the saab factory to check for crashworthiness. they were also early adopters of safety glass and safety belts. saab also did independent crash testing of its automobiles and later european versions would even have a "black box" to record crash data for study

3) technology firsts:
1971 first car with standard heated seats
1972 first car with headlamp washers & wipers & side-impact protection bars
1978 first car with pasenger compartment air filter
1983 asbestos free brake pads
1986 the saab 9000 was the first front wheel drive car with ABS
1991 CFC free A/C

on the whole saabs were safe, comfortable, efficient and reliable. to see rebadged subarus and chevys with the saab badge stuck on is a real affront to everything the company once stood for.

[Jonnycat26]

<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE(konakahuna @ Oct 4 2006, 08:13 PM) [snapback]328187[/snapback]</div>

on the whole saabs were safe, comfortable, efficient and reliable. to see rebadged subarus and chevys with the saab badge stuck on is a real affront to everything the company once stood for.
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Let's not go nuts... Saab was never above some rebadging on their own. The 9000 was a shared platform with Alfa Romeo and Fiat (much like the 93 and 95 are today), and their I4 was Ford derived.

And I have to hand it to GM... if they build the Saab AeroX, people will buy. That thing is possibly hotter than the Solstice and Sky combined.

[ken1784]

<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE(Tideland Prius @ Sep 26 2006, 06:01 AM) [snapback]324901[/snapback]</div>

Let's just say, if you want an HSD Camry, get the Camry Hybrid, if you want the THS-II Camry, get the Altima haha.
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The HSD and the THS-II are same meaning.
The Altima comes with the HSD 650V boost convertor same as Camry Hybrid.

Ken@Japan