Lithium-ion batteries: 15,000 deep cycles, 40 years life

tripp · 10-27-2006, 10:10 PM

Cracking indeed. I'm chuffed to bits. More substance would be nice though. I assume that there havn't been any "real world" test yet? How big are these cells? I assume that you'd wire many of them together to have a battery. How much would a 20 kWh battery cost?

Despite all of the questions it does seem like press releases about advances in battery technology are happening frequently. Let's see some products!

darelldd · 10-27-2006, 10:47 PM

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Cracking indeed. I'm chuffed to bits. More substance would be nice though. I assume that there havn't been any "real world" test yet? How big are these cells? I assume that you'd wire many of them together to have a battery. How much would a 20 kWh battery cost?

Despite all of the questions it does seem like press releases about advances in battery technology are happening frequently. Let's see some products!
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They do have them in "real world" tests today, actually. They've got cars built around them that are being driven daily. And yes... I agree that I"d like to see more products to go along with the increase in press releases!

DaveinOlyWA · 10-27-2006, 11:43 PM

to be honest with ya, its the only real hurdle i have to going for the plug in mod. if it cost $5 grand or less, ill do it.

tripp · 10-28-2006, 01:24 PM

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They do have them in "real world" tests today, actually. They've got cars built around them that are being driven daily. And yes... I agree that I"d like to see more products to go along with the increase in press releases!
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Have they published any data yet? I knew that some of these advanced batteries were in PHEVs but they never seem to site data from these studies in the press releases. You'd think that the laptop and power tool crowd would be all over these things (and perhaps they are, I just havn't heard anything about it).

darelldd · 10-28-2006, 08:09 PM

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Have they published any data yet? [/b]

Not that I'm aware of. While they blab all day long about how great their stuff is, they seem to hold the real data pretty close to the chest.

DaveinOlyWA · 10-28-2006, 09:29 PM

well i m sure with this large a leap in technology, they want to make sure that there are no hidden bugs with the technology. a small company like them would be buried under the suspicion of doubt with one wild unconfirmed statement along with other possible patent infringement issues as well.

if this technology can be mass produced cheaply this company's profits will explode. but none of that will happen if their reputation is sullied first.

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10-27-2006, 10:10 PM	#11
tripp Which it's a 'ybrid, ain't it? Join Date: Oct 2005 Location: Denver, CO Posts: 4,323 My Car: 2005 Prius Model: Package: #3 Thanks: 0 Thanked 2 Times in 2 Posts Friends: 6	Cracking indeed. I'm chuffed to bits. More substance would be nice though. I assume that there havn't been any "real world" test yet? How big are these cells? I assume that you'd wire many of them together to have a battery. How much would a 20 kWh battery cost? Despite all of the questions it does seem like press releases about advances in battery technology are happening frequently. Let's see some products!

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DaveinOlyWA 3rd Time was Solariffic!! Join Date: Apr 2004 Location: South Puget Sound, WA Posts: 12,383 My Car: 2010 Prius Model: IV Package: Solar Roof Thanks: 24 Thanked 122 Times in 104 Posts Friends: 10	to be honest with ya, its the only real hurdle i have to going for the plug in mod. if it cost $5 grand or less, ill do it.

10-28-2006, 09:29 PM	#16
DaveinOlyWA 3rd Time was Solariffic!! Join Date: Apr 2004 Location: South Puget Sound, WA Posts: 12,383 My Car: 2010 Prius Model: IV Package: Solar Roof Thanks: 24 Thanked 122 Times in 104 Posts Friends: 10	well i m sure with this large a leap in technology, they want to make sure that there are no hidden bugs with the technology. a small company like them would be buried under the suspicion of doubt with one wild unconfirmed statement along with other possible patent infringement issues as well. if this technology can be mass produced cheaply this company's profits will explode. but none of that will happen if their reputation is sullied first.