Toyota Prius Fails Georgia Emissions Test

jkash · 04-16-2007, 05:36 PM

Georgia flunks the Prius

Toyota may be flying high in eco-friendliness with its Prius hybrid car, but Georgia emissions testing equipment doesn't see it that way. 2004 Toyota Prius hybrids are now being required to go through emissions testing to complete yearly registration procedures, but the each and every one fails the test.

The emissions test requires that a probe be placed in the vehicle's exhaust pipe to measure the particulates emitted while the engine is at idle or the use of OBD-II to test 1996 and newer vehicles. The problem is that the Prius doesn't exactly "idle." When the Prius is "on" and at a standstill, the internal combustion engine (ICE) is stopped. If the ICE is not running at a constant idle speed, the emission test cannot complete and the vehicle fails.

Owners must still pay the $25 testing fee for the aborted test even though all emissions tests centers across the state of Georgia know ahead of time that the vehicle will fail the test. Heather Abrams of the Georgia Environmental Protection Division says that the Prius must take the doomed test regardless so that the vehicle information can be put into the state's system. Owners must take their failed emissions certificate to a GCAF Waiver Center to get permission to receive a new tag or call in with the code number on the aborted test.

Read more.

tripp · 04-16-2007, 05:40 PM

Idiots! Glad I don't live there anymore.

jkash · 04-16-2007, 05:42 PM

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Idiots! Glad I don't live there anymore.
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CNN also had a story on this today. At least in California, we are excempt from smog checks for now.

Earthling · 04-16-2007, 07:05 PM

D'Oh! Georgia!

Harry

dogfriend · 04-16-2007, 07:05 PM

I'm sorry if you live in Georgia, but that is truly retarded. Calif exempts the Prius from the biannual smog check because they recognize that they will need to determine a proper testing method.

http://www.smogcheck.ca.gov/StdPage.asp?Bo...heck/hybrid.htm

pewd · 04-16-2007, 07:15 PM

I saw that interview.

Bureaucratic fools - blindly spouting forth the nonsense that they have to take the test - and showing absolutely no initiative to solve the issue.

How about either 1) waiving the test completely and issue automatic waivers, or 2) finding a technical solution so that they can accurately measure what does indeed come out the tailpipe when the ICE is actually running.

Tech_Guy · 04-16-2007, 07:21 PM

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Georgia flunks the Prius

Toyota may be flying high in eco-friendliness with its Prius hybrid car, but Georgia emissions testing equipment doesn't see it that way. 2004 Toyota Prius hybrids are now being required to go through emissions testing to complete yearly registration procedures, but the each and every one fails the test.

The emissions test requires that a probe be placed in the vehicle's exhaust pipe to measure the particulates emitted while the engine is at idle or the use of OBD-II to test 1996 and newer vehicles. The problem is that the Prius doesn't exactly "idle." When the Prius is "on" and at a standstill, the internal combustion engine (ICE) is stopped. If the ICE is not running at a constant idle speed, the emission test cannot complete and the vehicle fails.

Owners must still pay the $25 testing fee for the aborted test even though all emissions tests centers across the state of Georgia know ahead of time that the vehicle will fail the test. Heather Abrams of the Georgia Environmental Protection Division says that the Prius must take the doomed test regardless so that the vehicle information can be put into the state's system. Owners must take their failed emissions certificate to a GCAF Waiver Center to get permission to receive a new tag or call in with the code number on the aborted test.

Read more.
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Technically, the ICE is running at a constant idle speed at a standstill. It is 0 (zero)....

Keith

skruse · 04-16-2007, 08:07 PM

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Technically, the ICE is running at a constant idle speed at a standstill. It is 0 (zero)....

Keith

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A lie repeated 1,000 times is still a lie. The ICE is "running" at 0 (zero) and should be recognized as such. This means in Georgia when a Prius comes to a stop sign or stop light, the ICE "dies" and has to be restarted.

For Georgia: you buy them books and buy them books and all they do is eat the pages.

And when our dogs do not eat, they must be dead and flunk the eating and defecation test, therefore they are not fit to live with us and we should no longer feed and take care of them. The people who designed and administer the Georgia emissions test need to move forward from the 1940s to 2007+.

Hisamine · 04-16-2007, 09:06 PM

This is so annoyingly agrivating and yet funny. Thery're so stupid to not update their testing system and just give it a FAIL. I wonder if the GM "hybrid" pickup trucks that shut their engine off at a stoplight will also fail. If those pass then they obviously have something against the Prius, not that that would be surprising.

- C

Bob64 · 04-16-2007, 10:15 PM

Solution: Put the prius into neutral.

04-16-2007, 05:36 PM	#1
jkash Senior Member Join Date: Nov 2003 Location: West Hills, CA Posts: 861 My Car: 2004 Prius Model: Package: #9 Thanks: 0 Thanked 0 Times in 0 Posts Friends: 0	Georgia flunks the Prius Toyota may be flying high in eco-friendliness with its Prius hybrid car, but Georgia emissions testing equipment doesn't see it that way. 2004 Toyota Prius hybrids are now being required to go through emissions testing to complete yearly registration procedures, but the each and every one fails the test. The emissions test requires that a probe be placed in the vehicle's exhaust pipe to measure the particulates emitted while the engine is at idle or the use of OBD-II to test 1996 and newer vehicles. The problem is that the Prius doesn't exactly "idle." When the Prius is "on" and at a standstill, the internal combustion engine (ICE) is stopped. If the ICE is not running at a constant idle speed, the emission test cannot complete and the vehicle fails. Owners must still pay the $25 testing fee for the aborted test even though all emissions tests centers across the state of Georgia know ahead of time that the vehicle will fail the test. Heather Abrams of the Georgia Environmental Protection Division says that the Prius must take the doomed test regardless so that the vehicle information can be put into the state's system. Owners must take their failed emissions certificate to a GCAF Waiver Center to get permission to receive a new tag or call in with the code number on the aborted test. Read more. __________________ Jeff Mr. Kash's Prius Page

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04-16-2007, 05:40 PM	#2
tripp Which it's a 'ybrid, ain't it? Join Date: Oct 2005 Location: Denver, CO Posts: 4,323 My Car: 2005 Prius Model: Package: #3 Thanks: 0 Thanked 2 Times in 2 Posts Friends: 6	Idiots! Glad I don't live there anymore.

04-16-2007, 07:05 PM	#4
Earthling Senior Member Join Date: Dec 2006 Location: Somewhere, NY Posts: 437 My Car: 2007 Prius Model: Package: #2 Thanks: 0 Thanked 1 Time in 1 Post Friends: 0	D'Oh! Georgia! Harry

04-16-2007, 07:05 PM	#5
dogfriend Human - Animal Hybrid Join Date: Feb 2007 Location: Carmichael, CA Posts: 4,969 My Car: 2007 Prius Model: Package: #6 Thanks: 288 Thanked 175 Times in 147 Posts Friends: 11	I'm sorry if you live in Georgia, but that is truly retarded. Calif exempts the Prius from the biannual smog check because they recognize that they will need to determine a proper testing method. http://www.smogcheck.ca.gov/StdPage.asp?Bo...heck/hybrid.htm

04-16-2007, 07:15 PM	#6
pewd Clarinet Dude Join Date: Jan 2007 Location: Dallas, Texas Posts: 332 My Car: 2007 Prius Model: Package: #1 Thanks: 0 Thanked 0 Times in 0 Posts Friends: 1	I saw that interview. Bureaucratic fools - blindly spouting forth the nonsense that they have to take the test - and showing absolutely no initiative to solve the issue. How about either 1) waiving the test completely and issue automatic waivers, or 2) finding a technical solution so that they can accurately measure what does indeed come out the tailpipe when the ICE is actually running.

04-16-2007, 09:06 PM	#9
Hisamine Join Date: Mar 2007 Posts: 22 My Car: Model: Package: Thanks: 0 Thanked 0 Times in 0 Posts Friends: 0	This is so annoyingly agrivating and yet funny. Thery're so stupid to not update their testing system and just give it a FAIL. I wonder if the GM "hybrid" pickup trucks that shut their engine off at a stoplight will also fail. If those pass then they obviously have something against the Prius, not that that would be surprising. - C

04-16-2007, 10:15 PM	#10
Bob64 Sapphire of the Blue Sky Join Date: Apr 2007 Location: Virginia Posts: 1,135 My Car: 2007 Prius Model: N/A Package: #2 Thanks: 3 Thanked 9 Times in 9 Posts Friends: 0	Solution: Put the prius into neutral.