More Volt News

[Syclone]

I don't know if this link will work properly, so the text of the story from Automotive news follows.

http://www.autonews.com/apps/pbcs.dll/arti...G/70504036/1148

Larry Burns says GM is developing gasoline- and fuel-cell-powered versions of the Volt.


GM gives Volt a jolt; could hit roads by 2010

Richard Truett and Jamie LaReau | Automotive News / May 7, 2007 - 1:00 am /





MILFORD, Mich. -- General Motors is moving quickly to get the Chevrolet Volt out of the laboratory and into the showroom.

Since the Volt's successful January debut as a concept car at the Detroit auto show, GM has taken major steps to develop a production version of the plug-in hybrid car.

"We are doing the production engineering on the Chevrolet Volt," says Larry Burns, GM's vice president for r&d. "It is a formal product program within our company, just like the Chevrolet Malibu is a product program."

Last week, Burns listed the steps in the program:

* GM has allocated funds for development.
* Engineering work is under way.
* The development team has selected the next-generation Delta platform for the vehicle.
* GM has decided to develop two versions, one with a gasoline engine and the other with a fuel cell.



Burns declined to estimate the project's cost. But GM Vice Chairman Bob Lutz predicted this year that the design, engineering and tooling would cost at least $500 million.

GM wants to build the Volt in the United States, says a source close to the project. The assembly plant in Lordstown, Ohio, which currently builds the Chevrolet Cobalt, is said to be the leading contender.

GM has said its next-generation Delta architecture would be the platform for the next Cobalt or Astra small car.

GM has not confirmed a production date for the Volt. The company generally needs about 36 months to bring a vehicle to production once the design is frozen, but it's not clear how soon that point could be reached.

That means the Volt could appear as soon as 2010.

One factor in the Volt's favor: Lutz supports it. He introduced the Volt at the Detroit show and has said the Volt could be ready in 2010 if suppliers produce a reliable lithium ion battery.

Lutz says the Volt would start off as a low-volume vehicle. To some degree, GM can use off-the-shelf hardware developed in other programs. But those parts have yet to be assembled and tested in a Volt. Nick Zielinsky, the Volt's chief engineer, says that will happen this year.

A niche vehicle like the Volt isn't likely to generate big profits. But GM executives think it could help establish GM's green credentials and would be an effective answer to the Toyota Prius.

GM is determined to build it, says Jim Queen, group vice president of global engineering. The company is prepared to forgo an initial profit on the Volt in the hope it could re-establish GM as a technology leader.

GM's green machine
The Chevrolet Volt

* Uses lithium ion batteries
* Drives on electric power only
* Has a small gasoline engine that recharges the batteries
* Can get a fuel cell or diesel in place of the gasoline engine
* Could be built as soon as 2010



Not a drop of gas

The production version would be a "series hybrid." The wheels are turned by an electric motor, which gets power from a battery pack.

The battery pack is recharged by a small gasoline engine that is not connected to the wheels; its sole purpose is to recharge the batteries.

Like other hybrid-powered vehicles, the Volt can run as long as it has gasoline in the tank. Unlike other hybrids, the Volt can be plugged in to an electrical outlet for an overnight battery recharge.

In theory, this allows a driver to go 40 miles a day without using a drop of gasoline. On longer drives, the gasoline engine recharges the batteries.

The Volt is versatile enough to feature a variety of green powertrains. GM probably would sell most fuel cell Volts in China.

Fuel cells still are too expensive for volume production, but Burns says GM continues to improve their performance and lower their cost.

The company's fifth-generation fuel cell likely will be ready by 2010. That fuel cell will be small enough to fit inside an engine compartment designed for a conventional four-cylinder engine.

European versions could have a diesel engine, Burns says. And the South American Volt could have an internal combustion engine fueled by pure ethanol.

"We want to sell this around the world," Burns says. "We don't want this to be tailored uniquely to the United States or uniquely to Europe. We want to give all our markets a chance."

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Removed, as the text was supposed to go to another thread . . . how'd that happen!?!

[fan-atic]

This is the GM way: If gas were to drop below $2.50/gal this project would be dropped in a nano second!

[Syclone]

<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE(fan-atic @ May 7 2007, 01:16 PM) [snapback]436927[/snapback]</div>

This is the GM way: If gas were to drop below $2.50/gal this project would be dropped in a nano second!
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OK! If gas were to drop to $1.50 per gallon do you think Toyota would develop a hybrid? Think of car companies with the old punch line in mind... "We already know what you are, We're just haggling over the price!"

[hschuck]

<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE(syclone @ May 7 2007, 12:35 PM) [snapback]437025[/snapback]</div>

OK! If gas were to drop to $1.50 per gallon do you think Toyota would develop a hybrid? Think of car companies with the old punch line in mind... "We already know what you are, We're just haggling over the price!"
[/b]

Yep. When the original Prius was developed and released in Japan, (approx 1992-1997) the averages US gas price was approx $1.50/gal in todays dollars.

http://zfacts.com/p/35.html

[john1701a]

<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE(hschuck @ May 7 2007, 03:01 PM) [snapback]437042[/snapback]</div>

Yep. When the original Prius was developed and released in Japan, (approx 1992-1997) the averages US gas price was approx $1.50/gal in todays dollars.

http://zfacts.com/p/35.html
[/b]

1 year after driving my Prius, the price of gas dropped below $1.

The response from GM was that the hybrid was a "stop gap" to fuel-cell vehicles.

How does Volt fit into the picture?

[Stev0]

I think I figured it out. GM is trying to pull a Microsoft here. For those of you not in the computer biz, whenever a non-Microsoft company comes out with a popular program where Microsoft doesn't have a competing program, or they have one that has a popular feature Microsoft's competing program doesn't have, MS will release a press release saying "Microsoft announces it will release yadda yadda at some unspecified date." Everyone stops buying the non-Microsoft version; once the rival company goes bankrupt, MS will then buy it for pennies on the dollar.

I think what GM is trying to do is get everyone to hold off and wait so they can buy <strike>Mexican</strike>American. Unfortunately for GM, they're no MS everybody sees through their BS.

[Tideland Prius]

Whoa whoa whoa.. 36 months to make a vehicle into production?!?!?! holy crap. Toyota made the Solara in 19 months from sketch to metal.

[Chrome]

<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE(Tideland Prius @ May 8 2007, 11:13 PM) [snapback]438023[/snapback]</div>

Whoa whoa whoa.. 36 months to make a vehicle into production?!?!?! holy crap. Toyota made the Solara in 19 months from sketch to metal.
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The Solara is a hacked up Camry. The Volt will be an all new car on an all new platform. The Solara's mechanicals, platform, factory...pretty much everything but the body were already taken care of.

[SomervillePrius]

I think 36 months from idea to production seem short. I'm not convinced they have a true production model that includes all the electronics and SW needed. I hope they make it as this is one of the few cars they have announced that seem to show any kind of leadership.