Toyota Denies Delays In Future Hybrid

[jkash]

Toyota Denies Delays In Future Hybrid Launches

Toyota says it’s “bemused” by the Wall Street Journal's recent story that the timing for its next generation of the Prius has been pushed back. Rebutting the story, Toyota issued the following statement:

“We've been very interested to note stories in The Wall Street Journal over the past couple of days purporting that the introduction of a next-generation Prius has been delayed because of the slow pace of development of lithium-ion batteries.

The Journal also claims that those same concerns have postponed the introduction of the use of our Hybrid Synergy Drive, using those batteries, in other Toyota vehicle lines such as the Sequoia and the Tundra.

Of course Toyota maintains detailed schedules for future vehicle development, production and launch--schedules that are under constant refinement as market conditions and consumer needs evolve. But, we've never announced the timing for the introduction of a next-generation Prius, or for any of our other hybrid vehicles. We do, in fact, introduce our vehicles only when they're ready for introduction.

For that matter, we've not shared much information about a next-generation Prius, since--like most companies operating in a highly competitive market--we don't talk explicitly about future product. And we've not discussed the type of battery that any hypothetical next-generation version of Hybrid Synergy Drive might use.

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[Earthling]

For that matter, we've not shared much information about a next-generation Prius, since--like most companies operating in a highly competitive market--we don't talk explicitly about future product.

That's what Don Corleone said in the first Godfather movie: never tell them what you're thinking!

Harry

[Winston]

Nice article.

[efusco]

I really like this statement they made. Well stated giving hints and clues but not giving a thing away.

This was interesting to me:
Range per charge is one such obstacle to overcome. A 10-mile round trip to the train station or market in Japan is not at all unusual. But in the U.S., that's a rarity, and consumers will expect considerably more in electric charge capacity-no matter what the battery type.

Maybe I'm reading more into it, but it seems clear to me that that means Toyota intends a longer range PHEV than the 10 mile number previously bantied about. Very cool.

[pafoss]

"We do, in fact, introduce our vehicles only when they're ready for introduction."

It's done when its done. Awesome.

[hobbit]

The Prius was the same way. And there didn't seem to be nearly as
much bogus rumor mill flying around it at the time. In fact, if the
press just left Toyota alone to do their thing instead of having to
continually do damage control, we might see a next-gen Prius that
much sooner.
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_H*

[FL_Prius_Driver]

1) Toyota may be much closer than you might think. 2009 or 2010 might be far away for some, but in car manufacturing, that's tomorrow.

2) A full production LiIon for PHEVs is also a full production LiIon for EVs.

[Tideland Prius]

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We do, in fact, introduce our vehicles only when they're ready for introduction.

For that matter, we've not shared much information about a next-generation Prius, since--like most companies operating in a highly competitive market--we don't talk explicitly about future product .
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I can foresee GM fans using these two statements as Toyota attacking GM lol.

[Winston]

The LiIon batteries would be a huge technological and mpg leap for the the Prius. The main reason is the energy storage efficiency improvement of LiIon vs NiMH. Over 90% for LiIon vs 60% for NiMH. Without LiIon, I don't know that they can do too much to improve the Prius. A smaller turbocharged engine maybe? I am not really too optimistic about them releasing a PHEV NiMH Prius. I don't think you can get a good PHEV without going LiIon.

[clett]

<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE(Winston @ Aug 14 2007, 01:14 PM) [snapback]495416[/snapback]</div>

The main reason is the energy storage efficiency improvement of LiIon vs NiMH. Over 90% for LiIon vs 60% for NiMH.
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Exactly - far too much of the energy recovered from braking is lost when using a NiMH battery. Similar losses are incurred if using NiMH for a PHEV charged from the grid, so they need to move to LiIon asap (some types have over 98% efficiency in terms of charge out for charge in).