Govt-sponsored EV trial in NZ

samiam · 08-15-2007, 03:04 AM

An electric car trial announced to day by state-owned energy company. Doesn't say what make of car though.

Meridian Energy announces electric car trial
Wednesday, 15 August 2007, 1:05 pm
Press Release: Meridian Energy
Media Release
Embargoed until 1pm, Wednesday, 15 August 2007
Meridian Energy announces electric car trial

State-owned electricity company Meridian Energy has announced it will conduct a small-scale trial of electric cars early next year.

Meridian chief executive Keith Turner says the company has been closely watching overseas developments in electric vehicles, and is convinced that the technology is about to reach a tipping point.

“Advances in motor and control technology, and especially battery technology, mean that all-electric cars will be appearing in the market in the not too distant future.”

Meridian does not intend to get into selling cars, Dr Turner told a Wellington news conference today, but it wants to investigate how electric cars perform in New Zealand conditions, with a view to convincing the auto industry to look at this country as a priority market.

“The transport sector is, of course, one of the biggest users of energy in New Zealand and one of the biggest emitters of greenhouse gases,” said Dr Turner, indicating electric cars could significantly reduce our impact on the environment.

“The prize in making the move to electric vehicles comes when you recharge them with renewable electricity. Meridian will be able to demonstrate renewable, zero-emission, certified carbon neutral mobility,” added Dr Turner.

But the real prize, says Dr Turner, is New Zealanders driving electric vehicles charged up with the plentiful wind and water resources of our own country – “that prize is worth pursuing.”

“There is no point in somebody feeling good about driving round town in an electric vehicle if the electricity they’re using has come from a coal-burning plant. All they’ve done is shifted the emissions from their tail pipe to a smoke-stack over somebody else’s town,” he added.

In the last few years there have been developments and successes seen in the use of hybrid cars, and plug-in hybrids are now available overseas. All-electric cars are the next step.

Meridian has three goals in conducting next year’s trial:
1. To test how electric cars perform in New Zealand conditions
2. To find out what New Zealanders think about electric cars
3. To encourage the auto industry to look more closely at opportunities in New Zealand.

Dr Turner thinks New Zealand is an ideal environment to test new innovations, because of the nation’s pioneering attitude to new technologies and the benefit of the relatively small test market.

apriusfan · 08-15-2007, 11:28 AM

All I can say is with more people trying to crack the EV nut, the quicker it will get cracked.

finman · 08-15-2007, 11:51 AM

And that "smokestack" is SIGNIFICANTLY cleaner than all those UN-REGULATED car tailpipes. Sheesh, why is that so hard to comprehend. Do the research, darreldd has a great webpage...Tesla motors has data. It's NOT dirtier even with carbon-based electricity to run an electric car versus a gasser. It's NOT! And I'll repeat again...IT's NOT. When renewables are in the equation, it gets even better, duh! But the data is there. How do ya think gasoline is refined...using electricity. Why don't we just skip the gasoline and fuel with the electricity. Seems simple, but, alas, the oil cartel will not have that...well, their day is ending.

AussieOwner · 08-15-2007, 06:08 PM

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And that "smokestack" is SIGNIFICANTLY cleaner than all those UN-REGULATED car tailpipes. Sheesh, why is that so hard to comprehend. Do the research, darreldd has a great webpage...Tesla motors has data. It's NOT dirtier even with carbon-based electricity to run an electric car versus a gasser. It's NOT! And I'll repeat again...IT's NOT. When renewables are in the equation, it gets even better, duh! But the data is there. How do ya think gasoline is refined...using electricity. Why don't we just skip the gasoline and fuel with the electricity. Seems simple, but, alas, the oil cartel will not have that...well, their day is ending.
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Down boy, down

You have to remember that this is a New Zealand news item. New Zealand effectively is a green country - they have almost no power stations at all - it is almost all hydo, or natural thermal produced electricity, so for them, NO carbon based emmissions is even better than some.

Nevillewc · 08-15-2007, 08:05 PM

Not completely renewable - the percentage is between 60% and 75% Hydro, Wind, Geothermal & Biomass, with the remainder Thermal (mainly Natural Gas) depending on the time if the year.

http://www.stats.govt.nz/products-and-serv...mar07qtr-mr.htm

The same firm is building wind farms so they have a real interest in getting electric vehicles accepted

http://www.stuff.co.nz/4166083a13.html

finman · 08-16-2007, 09:17 AM

Kudos to NZ and AU for the renewables! Why, we, the US, think we're such a tech leader when this kind of thing is happening? We still think clean-coal is the answer...how old is THAT!! We may enventually get to the level of these other countries, but only kicking and screaming it seems. I, for one, would like to apologize for this ahead of time.

Keep up the good example, some of us here is the US are simply in awe of other countries ability to move forward (stole that from Toyota).

08-15-2007, 03:04 AM	#1
samiam Antipodean Prius Poster Join Date: Jun 2007 Location: Enn Zed Posts: 2,405 My Car: 2004 Prius Model: Package: Thanks: 1 Thanked 16 Times in 11 Posts Friends: 9	An electric car trial announced to day by state-owned energy company. Doesn't say what make of car though. Meridian Energy announces electric car trial Wednesday, 15 August 2007, 1:05 pm Press Release: Meridian Energy Media Release Embargoed until 1pm, Wednesday, 15 August 2007 Meridian Energy announces electric car trial State-owned electricity company Meridian Energy has announced it will conduct a small-scale trial of electric cars early next year. Meridian chief executive Keith Turner says the company has been closely watching overseas developments in electric vehicles, and is convinced that the technology is about to reach a tipping point. “Advances in motor and control technology, and especially battery technology, mean that all-electric cars will be appearing in the market in the not too distant future.” Meridian does not intend to get into selling cars, Dr Turner told a Wellington news conference today, but it wants to investigate how electric cars perform in New Zealand conditions, with a view to convincing the auto industry to look at this country as a priority market. “The transport sector is, of course, one of the biggest users of energy in New Zealand and one of the biggest emitters of greenhouse gases,” said Dr Turner, indicating electric cars could significantly reduce our impact on the environment. “The prize in making the move to electric vehicles comes when you recharge them with renewable electricity. Meridian will be able to demonstrate renewable, zero-emission, certified carbon neutral mobility,” added Dr Turner. But the real prize, says Dr Turner, is New Zealanders driving electric vehicles charged up with the plentiful wind and water resources of our own country – “that prize is worth pursuing.” “There is no point in somebody feeling good about driving round town in an electric vehicle if the electricity they’re using has come from a coal-burning plant. All they’ve done is shifted the emissions from their tail pipe to a smoke-stack over somebody else’s town,” he added. In the last few years there have been developments and successes seen in the use of hybrid cars, and plug-in hybrids are now available overseas. All-electric cars are the next step. Meridian has three goals in conducting next year’s trial: 1. To test how electric cars perform in New Zealand conditions 2. To find out what New Zealanders think about electric cars 3. To encourage the auto industry to look more closely at opportunities in New Zealand. Dr Turner thinks New Zealand is an ideal environment to test new innovations, because of the nation’s pioneering attitude to new technologies and the benefit of the relatively small test market. __________________ Cogito Ergo Sam "BOO" the 2004 Spectra Blue Mica Mystery Spec

08-15-2007, 11:51 AM	#3
finman Senior Member Join Date: Apr 2004 Location: Rapid City, SD Posts: 1,014 My Car: 2004 Prius Model: Package: #7 Thanks: 70 Thanked 9 Times in 8 Posts Friends: 0	And that "smokestack" is SIGNIFICANTLY cleaner than all those UN-REGULATED car tailpipes. Sheesh, why is that so hard to comprehend. Do the research, darreldd has a great webpage...Tesla motors has data. It's NOT dirtier even with carbon-based electricity to run an electric car versus a gasser. It's NOT! And I'll repeat again...IT's NOT. When renewables are in the equation, it gets even better, duh! But the data is there. How do ya think gasoline is refined...using electricity. Why don't we just skip the gasoline and fuel with the electricity. Seems simple, but, alas, the oil cartel will not have that...well, their day is ending. __________________ 04' Seaside Pearl #7. Fumoto oil drain, add-on mudflaps, rear bumper scuff protector & rear sensor warn, compass mirror, EV mode, synthetic oil, 8" custom sub in right rear cubby, 6" subs under front seats, power lumbar and seat heaters in front seats, Coastaletech hitch with Aspen bike/snowboard rack, iPod2car, DVD video, 2 amps, Alpine component speakers, solid 46 MPG @87000 miles, best tank 56 MPG.

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08-15-2007, 11:28 AM	#2
apriusfan Senior Member Join Date: Apr 2007 Location: S.F. Bay Area Posts: 5,254 My Car: 2007 Prius Model: Package: #6 Touring Thanks: 44 Thanked 141 Times in 108 Posts Friends: 6	All I can say is with more people trying to crack the EV nut, the quicker it will get cracked.

08-15-2007, 08:05 PM	#5
Nevillewc Member Join Date: Aug 2006 Location: New Zealand Posts: 35 My Car: 2006 Prius Model: Package: Base Thanks: 0 Thanked 0 Times in 0 Posts Friends: 0	Not completely renewable - the percentage is between 60% and 75% Hydro, Wind, Geothermal & Biomass, with the remainder Thermal (mainly Natural Gas) depending on the time if the year. http://www.stats.govt.nz/products-and-serv...mar07qtr-mr.htm The same firm is building wind farms so they have a real interest in getting electric vehicles accepted http://www.stuff.co.nz/4166083a13.html

08-16-2007, 09:17 AM	#6
finman Senior Member Join Date: Apr 2004 Location: Rapid City, SD Posts: 1,014 My Car: 2004 Prius Model: Package: #7 Thanks: 70 Thanked 9 Times in 8 Posts Friends: 0	Kudos to NZ and AU for the renewables! Why, we, the US, think we're such a tech leader when this kind of thing is happening? We still think clean-coal is the answer...how old is THAT!! We may enventually get to the level of these other countries, but only kicking and screaming it seems. I, for one, would like to apologize for this ahead of time. Keep up the good example, some of us here is the US are simply in awe of other countries ability to move forward (stole that from Toyota).