Toyota Fuel-Cell Logs 2300 Miles In Seven Days, Averages Well-Above 300 Miles Per Tank

**Danny** · 11-14-2007, 04:08 PM

Fairbanks-To-Vancouver Along The Alaska highway: Toyota Fuel-Cell Logs 2300 Miles In Seven Days, Averages Well-Above 300 Miles Per Tank
November 14, 2007 - Los Angeles, CA -
Toyota Motor Sales (TMS) U.S.A, Inc., revealed a significant achievement in its ongoing hydrogen-hybrid fuel cell development program at a press conference today at the 2007 Los Angeles Auto Show. A recent 2,300 mile trek in a Toyota Fuel Cell Hybrid Vehicle (FCHV) from Fairbanks, Alaska to Vancouver, British Columbia along the Alaska-Canadian (ALCAN) highway confirmed substantial progress in reliability and durability, cold-weather operation and extended range capability of Toyota's hybrid fuel cell system.

Full article over on HybridChat.

http://www.hybridchat.com/news/toyota-fuel...l-above-300-mpg

darelldd · 11-14-2007, 04:20 PM

Hmm. I think I'll sit this one out. Had some comments. I'll keep them to myself and let others determine the direction of the thread. Standing by.

**Tideland Prius** · 11-14-2007, 04:20 PM

Hmm.. didn't see a FCHV here in Vancouver yet.

DaveinOlyWA · 11-17-2007, 05:24 PM

sounds good!!. next time i have a million to spend, i'll be picking one up for sure

donee · 11-17-2007, 05:49 PM

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Hmm.. didn't see a FCHV here in Vancouver yet.
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Did you happen to see any tanker trucks, with the tank painted red? That would be the hydrogen supply for the FCHV .

**Tideland Prius** · 11-18-2007, 12:37 AM

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Did you happen to see any tanker trucks, with the tank painted red? That would be the hydrogen supply for the FCHV .
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Nope. And I've already seen my fair share of FC vehicles lol. (5 Ford Focus FCs and a Citadel FC bus)

MikeSF · 11-18-2007, 04:39 PM

What's the gas tank like on these things? Is it just this enormous gas tank? Or does a hydrogen fuel cell get a tremendous efficiency boost as a result of the way a fuel cell works in an "electric"(?) car?

**Tideland Prius** · 11-18-2007, 06:28 PM

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What's the gas tank like on these things? Is it just this enormous gas tank? Or does a hydrogen fuel cell get a tremendous efficiency boost as a result of the way a fuel cell works in an "electric"(?) car?
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Circular "bins" vs. our squarish fuel tank.

Think oil tanker but smaller :P

daniel · 11-18-2007, 07:11 PM

Achieving 300 miles per tank is a significant breakthrough. There's no belittling that. Now all they have to do is get the price from ten million dollars down to a few tens of thousands and create a nation-wide distribution and retail network for the hydrogen.

I have a (toy) fuel-cell car. It really works. The fuel cell is worth about a hundred dollars and has a fraction of the power output of a D cell battery. Maybe ten or twenty thousand fuel cells like this could drive a car. That's one or two million dollars just for the fuel cells.

And from what I hear, fuel cells have a relatively limited life.

And then there was the EV-1, which worked just fine, a decade ago, until GM decided to grab them all back against the owners' wishes and crush them.

burritos · 11-21-2007, 06:30 PM

Unless there's a pipeline to the sun I haven't heard about, why does everyone ignore the fact that the energy to source the H2 will come PREDOMINANTLY from fossil fuels?

11-14-2007, 04:08 PM	#1
Danny Admin/Founder Join Date: Nov 2003 Location: Charlotte, NC Posts: 5,289 My Car: 2010 Prius Model: IV Package: Solar Roof Thanks: 38 Thanked 201 Times in 84 Posts Friends: 37	Fairbanks-To-Vancouver Along The Alaska highway: Toyota Fuel-Cell Logs 2300 Miles In Seven Days, Averages Well-Above 300 Miles Per Tank November 14, 2007 - Los Angeles, CA - Toyota Motor Sales (TMS) U.S.A, Inc., revealed a significant achievement in its ongoing hydrogen-hybrid fuel cell development program at a press conference today at the 2007 Los Angeles Auto Show. A recent 2,300 mile trek in a Toyota Fuel Cell Hybrid Vehicle (FCHV) from Fairbanks, Alaska to Vancouver, British Columbia along the Alaska-Canadian (ALCAN) highway confirmed substantial progress in reliability and durability, cold-weather operation and extended range capability of Toyota's hybrid fuel cell system. Full article over on HybridChat. http://www.hybridchat.com/news/toyota-fuel...l-above-300-mpg __________________ Follow PriusChat on and *Buy your discounted 2010 Prius Accessories* here and support PriusChat: PriusChat Shop PriusChat Also Offers Discounts on: Extended Warranty - $1055 : Pre-Paid Maintenance - $875**

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daniel Cat Lovers Against the Bomb Join Date: Feb 2004 Location: Spokane, WA Posts: 11,278 My Car: 2004 Prius Model: Package: #6 Thanks: 59 Thanked 201 Times in 127 Posts Friends: 0	Achieving 300 miles per tank is a significant breakthrough. There's no belittling that. Now all they have to do is get the price from ten million dollars down to a few tens of thousands and create a nation-wide distribution and retail network for the hydrogen. I have a (toy) fuel-cell car. It really works. The fuel cell is worth about a hundred dollars and has a fraction of the power output of a D cell battery. Maybe ten or twenty thousand fuel cells like this could drive a car. That's one or two million dollars just for the fuel cells. And from what I hear, fuel cells have a relatively limited life. And then there was the EV-1, which worked just fine, a decade ago, until GM decided to grab them all back against the owners' wishes and crush them. __________________ Daniel Primary car: 100% Electric 2003 Porsche 911 Carrera. Estimated range at 55 mph: 81 miles total or 64 miles to 80% discharge. Top speed 70 mph. Secondary car: Zap Xebra SD, also 100% electric. 1.9 cents per mile. Range: 40 miles total, or 32 miles to 80% discharge. Top speed 35 mph. Faster downhill. Both EVs use electrons generated from water power. Gas guzzler for when I have to travel farther than 60 miles: 2004 Prius. "If voting changed anything, they'd make it illegal." -- Emma Goldman "Anyone who has ever looked into the glazed eyes of a soldier dying on the battlefield will think long and hard before starting a war." -- Otto von Bismarck

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Tideland Prius Moderator of the North Join Date: Oct 2004 Location: Canada Posts: 19,606 My Car: 2010 Prius Model: N/A Package: Technology Package (Canada) Thanks: 227 Thanked 343 Times in 242 Posts Friends: 23	Hmm.. didn't see a FCHV here in Vancouver yet.

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MikeSF Senior Member Join Date: Apr 2006 Location: San Francisco Posts: 376 My Car: 2006 Prius Model: Package: #2 Thanks: 0 Thanked 0 Times in 0 Posts Friends: 0	What's the gas tank like on these things? Is it just this enormous gas tank? Or does a hydrogen fuel cell get a tremendous efficiency boost as a result of the way a fuel cell works in an "electric"(?) car?

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burritos Senior Member Join Date: Feb 2006 Location: California Posts: 3,679 My Car: 2006 Prius Model: Package: #1 Thanks: 1 Thanked 22 Times in 17 Posts Friends: 8	Unless there's a pipeline to the sun I haven't heard about, why does everyone ignore the fact that the energy to source the H2 will come PREDOMINANTLY from fossil fuels?