Next Gen relase date - April 2009

[Aviator_Guy]

Originally Posted by etyler88

Is this official enough?

Digital Chosunilbo (English Edition) : Daily News in English About Korea

A Toyota Korea source said Monday the company is considering releasing the third-generation Prius in Korea, Japan and the U.S. simultaneously on its scheduled release date in April 2009.

This article claims the next generation of Toyota hybrid will get 40KM per 1 Liter of fuel??? That’s not an increase in fuel economy, that’s one giant leap for mankind!!

Please check my math, but I think that comes to 94mpg!!??

1 Liter = .2617 Gallons
40KM = 24.85 Miles

1 Gallon = 3.785 Liters

3.785 Liters x 24.85 Miles per Liter = 94.057 MPG

With a 11.9 gallon tank, that’s a range of over 1000 miles!! LOL, I could drive from Los Angeles to our second home in Arizona and back to LA on one tank of gas!! Either my math is incorrect or their MPG claims are too good to be true!! If the MPG is true, I will get one for sure!

[KandyRedCoi]

^sounds good on paper...but how will it hold up on its first run???^

[bob2780]

HI Everyone,
Sorry my Post needed to be clarified
Don't Get excited over 80+ possible MPG for GenIII Maybe a 6-7mile EV Range
According to the Link at the top of the post it stated for the Gen III Prius will have a 1.8 Liter engine and an improved economy 40km/L (96.5MPG) using the old Japanese 10-15 mode test cycle

See link Emission Test Cycles: Japanese 10-15 Mode
Explaining the test procedure

Very generous to hybrids more so then the pre-2007 USA EPA of 60/51 Figure MPG for Gen II, as a comparison 35.5 km /L or (83.5)MPG Using Japanese 10-15 mode test cycle figure

Using purposed Gen III economy 96.5- Gen II economy 83.5 =13mpg performance increase or 13.47% 13/96.5 =0.1347*100

Extrapolating the 13.47% performance increase of GEN III using the established new 2007 Gen II USA EPA mpg figure 48/45MPG =6.46+48=54.46 MPG/6.06 +45=51.06 MPG City/Hwy

Also here is a link explaining the new jc08 2015 Japanese standard containing info for Gen II specs
Green Car Congress: Prius Certified to Japanese 2015 Fuel Economy Standards with JC08 Test Cycle

This is just for fun

Bob2780

[prius12306]

Originally Posted by bob2780

Hi Everyone,
Don’t get to excited Yes according to the article the new Gen III Prius Will has a fuel economy rating of 40km /L or 96.5 MPG
But that could be using the Japanese 10-15 test standard very liberal to hybrid Cars more liberal then the old EPA of 60 The 10-15 test standard rating for Gen II was 35.5 km/L or 83.5 MPG

The increase in MPG in Gen III is13.6% using the EPA of 48 MPG=6.52 or 54.5 for the new mpg standard

Bob2780

Thanks for clearing that up. It really bothers me that people see these numbers and then get disappointed when the car gets exactly what it realisticly should. Personally I'm just thrilled to be getting around 48 MPG with my 2008 prius vs the 32 MPG I was getting on the 2004 camry.

[Tideland Prius]

What Bob said. It's under the Japanese 1-15 cycle. It's an increase from 35.5 to 40km/L.

So that probably means the combined will go from 46 to 50ish mpg.

[Aviator_Guy]

I haven’t seen much info on the 2010 Generation III Hybrid other than rumors. I’m sure Toyota will begin releasing info on their new 2010 Hybrid soon. The one rumor I like the most is being able to run on pure electric up to 50 mph for approximately 5 to 10 miles or so. If this is true, I will trade my FJ cruiser in for this new 2010 Hybrid and keep my Prius as a second car. I think it would be way cool to charge up a Hybrid using home generated wind / solar and then drive down to the mall and back using absolutely no fossil fuel, totally off the Grid!!! That would be Awesome!!

[daniel]

Originally Posted by Oracle

If there's a list, I'll get on it...Just what does getting on a list buy me though? Is it contractual...or what?

Normally, getting on a list involves giving a refundable $500 deposit in return for a promise that you'll have a specific place in the selling order. If you change your mind before the car comes in, you get your deposit back.

However, you need to verify this with the dealer, because any dealer can operate his waiting list any way he likes. The above is normal. It is not universal. Some dealers give you a written promise, which is effectively a contract. Some don't. Some respect their own list, others don't.

Originally Posted by KandyRedCoi

the 1st run of new cars usually have problems (some minor some major), since i already have a prius now, i will wait for the 2nd or even the 3rd run of production, to ensure a more problem free vehicle

This is true of many auto makers and all American auto makers. Toyota, however, is a cut above on quality. I bought my 2004 Prius in January of 2004 (having ordered it two months earlier) and I've had no serious problems with it. There were a couple of minor issues, but I have no regrets, considering that waiting a year would have meant a year of not driving a Prius.

Originally Posted by prius12306

When I picked up my 2008 just a couple of weeks ago, the salesperson got a phone call and someone was asking about the next gen. My salesperson said 80 - 90 MPG and that it would not be out until mid 2009. He also added that it was all "unofficial".

Salespeople are the single most unreliable sources of information on the planet!!!

[CAPTAIN_JAMES]

Originally Posted by daniel

Salespeople are the single most unreliable sources of information on the planet!!!

ROTFL

[stevecaz]

I think this is a good bet - just slightly different and better looking, although the wheels on this one go a long way to improving looks.



2009 Toyota Prius: Spy Report - Popular Mechanics

[KandyRedCoi]

yea those big 18" wheels will not make production LOL im pretty sure of that haha