Prius PHEV conversion now $4,995

miscrms · 07-29-2008, 07:11 PM

I think Robb's kit has a lot going for it. Their tilt up battery box that lets you at the spare tire is very nice, the price is getting better, and if they are really getting 800 cycles out of their lead acid pack thats a big step forward. Li-ion upgrade path is obviously a nice plus as well.

Rob

**efusco** · 07-29-2008, 10:06 PM

I wonder how/if this would integrate with my CAN-View?

TheForce · 07-29-2008, 10:46 PM

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Originally Posted by efusco

I wonder how/if this would integrate with my CAN-View?

If you have a can-view with the relays it should integrate fine. Otherwise you would have to send Norm your can-view and have him install the parts or you could buy and install the parts your self if your good with a soldering iron.

philmcneal · 07-30-2008, 10:08 PM

anyone know details about the 52 mph EV mode? how they hack it?

Brennos · 07-31-2008, 10:08 AM

that is what i want to know.. how did they get the EV mode to 52mph?? and why do you have to shut the car off and back on to get it out of that mode??

TheForce · 07-31-2008, 10:16 AM

They simulate and "out of gas" experience for the car. The car thinks its out of gas and must be shut down to exit that mode. If you don't shut down the engine will not come back on even if you still have gas.

SureValla · 07-31-2008, 08:26 PM

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Originally Posted by miscrms

I think Robb's kit has a lot going for it. Their tilt up battery box that lets you at the spare tire is very nice, the price is getting better, and if they are really getting 800 cycles out of their lead acid pack thats a big step forward. Li-ion upgrade path is obviously a nice plus as well.

Rob

wait a minute do you mean to say they can only be recharged 800 times?

as in 800 days then? because you'd probably charge each night

TheForce · 07-31-2008, 08:58 PM

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Originally Posted by SureValla

wait a minute do you mean to say they can only be recharged 800 times?

as in 800 days then? because you'd probably charge each night

Thats correct. If you discharged and recharged once a day the battery would last about 800 days.

SureValla · 07-31-2008, 10:44 PM

that means its definitely not worth it for me and I drive an average of 90 miles a day

at that rate it takes a bit over 3 years to make 5k back (assuming gas is 4.40, increasing it to 5.50 makes it ~2.8 years)

at 1 charge/day thats 2.5 years so basically its a lose lose situation here.

(not to mention the above analysis doesnt take into account the cost of electricity to recharge)

The only benefit I see is lower emissions.

joewein · 08-06-2008, 02:56 AM

I consider $4995 a lot of money to effectively convert a Prius into a coal-burning vehicle.

Don't forget that roughly half of all electricity in the USA is generated by coal-fired power stations, about as much as from all other sources of power combined.

Coal causes more CO2 output per kWh than any other source of power.

The situation would be very different of course if most power was generated from wind, solar, geothermal, hydro or other renewable and clean sources, but right now (and certainly within the lifetime of an 800 charge cycles battery) that is not the case.

07-29-2008, 07:11 PM	#11
miscrms Plug Envious Member Join Date: Aug 2007 Location: Phoenix, AZ Posts: 762 My Car: 2005 Prius Package: #4 Nominated 0 Times in 0 Posts TOTM Awards: 0 Friends: 1	Re: Prius PHEV conversion now $4,995 I think Robb's kit has a lot going for it. Their tilt up battery box that lets you at the spare tire is very nice, the price is getting better, and if they are really getting 800 cycles out of their lead acid pack thats a big step forward. Li-ion upgrade path is obviously a nice plus as well. Rob

07-29-2008, 10:06 PM	#12
efusco Troll Slayer Join Date: Nov 2003 Location: Nixa, MO Posts: 12,806 My Car: 2004 Prius Package: #9 Nominated 1 Time in 1 Post TOTM Awards: 0 Friends: 20	Re: Prius PHEV conversion now $4,995 I wonder how/if this would integrate with my CAN-View?

07-30-2008, 10:08 PM	#14
philmcneal Taxi! Join Date: Jan 2006 Location: Burnaby B.C Posts: 218 My Car: 2004 Prius Package: Base Nominated 0 Times in 0 Posts TOTM Awards: 0 Friends: 0	Re: Prius PHEV conversion now $4,995 anyone know details about the 52 mph EV mode? how they hack it?

07-31-2008, 10:08 AM	#15
Brennos Junior Member Join Date: Sep 2007 Location: GA Posts: 3 My Car: 2007 Prius Package: #4 Nominated 0 Times in 0 Posts TOTM Awards: 0 Friends: 0	Re: Prius PHEV conversion now $4,995 that is what i want to know.. how did they get the EV mode to 52mph?? and why do you have to shut the car off and back on to get it out of that mode??

07-31-2008, 10:16 AM	#16
TheForce RonPaul For Liberty,not Empire Join Date: May 2005 Location: Wheelersburg, Ohio Posts: 1,968 My Car: 2006 Prius Package: #7 Nominated 7 Times in 2 Posts TOTM Awards: 0 Friends: 15	Re: Prius PHEV conversion now $4,995 They simulate and "out of gas" experience for the car. The car thinks its out of gas and must be shut down to exit that mode. If you don't shut down the engine will not come back on even if you still have gas.

07-31-2008, 10:44 PM	#19
SureValla Senior Member Join Date: Jul 2007 Location: White Plains, NY Posts: 312 My Car: 2007 Prius Package: #3 Nominated 0 Times in 0 Posts TOTM Awards: 0 Friends: 0	Re: Prius PHEV conversion now $4,995 that means its definitely not worth it for me and I drive an average of 90 miles a day at that rate it takes a bit over 3 years to make 5k back (assuming gas is 4.40, increasing it to 5.50 makes it ~2.8 years) at 1 charge/day thats 2.5 years so basically its a lose lose situation here. (not to mention the above analysis doesnt take into account the cost of electricity to recharge) The only benefit I see is lower emissions.

08-06-2008, 02:56 AM	#20
joewein Driving in Japan Join Date: Aug 2008 Location: Yokohama, Japan Posts: 7 My Car: 2008 Prius Package: S Touring Nominated 0 Times in 0 Posts TOTM Awards: 0 Friends: 0	Re: Prius PHEV conversion now $4,995 I consider $4995 a lot of money to effectively convert a Prius into a coal-burning vehicle. Don't forget that roughly half of all electricity in the USA is generated by coal-fired power stations, about as much as from all other sources of power combined. Coal causes more CO2 output per kWh than any other source of power. The situation would be very different of course if most power was generated from wind, solar, geothermal, hydro or other renewable and clean sources, but right now (and certainly within the lifetime of an 800 charge cycles battery) that is not the case.

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