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Friends: 0 | For those looking to purchase their new hybrids domestically, Ford is announcing that their new Ford Fusion Hybrid will be available March of 2009. Ford Fusion Hybrid Due in 2009 - BusinessWeek I mention domestically because Toyota has announced that is has halted construction of their Prius plant in the United States earlier this month (December ,2008). The news comes at a time when North American automakers are cutting jobs. Original Article Source: Quote:
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Friends: 2 | Very encouraging for Ford, those concerned about the future of the US auto industry, and buyers looking for high FE. In the last paragraph of the article, this sentence appears: "One area where the 2010 Ford fusion is sadly lacking is that while the Fusion Hybrid provides a standard 110-volt power outlet it is not a plug in hybrid." I am unaware of there being any connection with the car having a 110V outlet, and the car having plug-in charging capabilities. Or am I missing something? I take it that this means that there will be a built-in inverter. I wonder, will it be under the dash with just enough capacity for in-car electronics, or perhaps under the hood with enough umph to run a 'fridge or sump pump in the house in an emergency? Last edited by Rokeby; 12-31-2008 at 12:36 PM. |
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Friends: 23 | This is great news for Ford. I hope they do really well with this vehicle. I think they will. From the treatment some of us offer (if only in text) to domestic manufacturers, it would be easy to think that we hate them all. On the contrary, some of us are merely disappointed that after the FreedomCar initiative, after the EV1, after promises of new technology domestic manufacturers find themselves releasing a truly respectable hybrid more than ten years after the four-door Prius was introduced in the US. So while I pat Ford on the back with my right hand and say "well done", I slap them with the left and say "it's about time."
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Electrical losses are due to resistance. Losses due to resistance go up with square of the current. (Joule effect) When you reduce the voltage, to get the same power output, you need to increase the current, which also increases losses due to resistance. This is one reason why long-distance transmission lines use extremely high voltage. For example, if you have a 100V supply and you need to supply 100W, this requires 1 amp of current. If you have a 200V supply and need to supply 100W, this requires 0.5 amps of current. Electrical loses compared to the 100V system are 1/4 of the losses and thus efficiency is 4 times higher. Am I missing something? | |
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Friends: 0 | The article states that the voltage (presumably the voltage of the bus from which the controlled motor drive energy flows are derived) was lowered to reduce power dissipation and hence improve efficiency. As an experienced power electronics and power systems engineer, I'd like to point out that there are many trade-offs involved in choosing the proper or most efficient voltage for a system to be operated. It's pretty complicated for a "simple" motor/controller system, and if it's for a hybrid vehicle propulsion system the complexity multiplies. However, for a given power level, one can usually optimize a system for better efficiency with a higher system voltage than lower. This assumes one has NOT yet designed the product. One very notable example is the use of 100's of kilovolts for very high power (100's of megawatts) power transmission system. The basis for this phenomenon is that power loss is driven by the equation R*I^2, where voltage does not figure in. By reducing current one reduces this major source of power loss. One restores the systme power output by raising the voltage commensurately, following the equation P=I*V. To my mind, Ford was optimizing this aspect of the powertrain late in the design cycle. I assume the associated constraints prevented the (generaally more effective) type of optimization I outline above. I'm looking forward to this car! Road Fan |
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Friends: 9 | mmmm i dont read anything new the stuff is written so it seams there a special things and better then the prius but its not! the new ford will for the first time be on par with the prius maybe "the pack no longer needs its own air conditioning system. Instead, cabin air can be routed through the pack to keep it cool." wow so before there was active a/c on the pack? prius already got normal FAN cooling in 1997 ? 97% regen capture? nice figure dont believe it. "Another energy saving technology used in the Fusion is Electric Power Assisted Steering (EPAS). This utilizes a steering column mounted electric motor that provides steering power assistance on demand and typically consumes less than 7% of the energy of a conventional hydraulic rack and pinion power steering system." damm electronic powered steering in 2009 WOW WOW....... is this for real? is ford really putting this in there report for the hybrid car? i can not think of any car over here that not already ( or brand of car ) got electic instead of hydrolic power steering for years now. nothing special about that. but anyway good that cars like this are going to be on the road soon
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