Comparison Test: 2009 Toyota Prius vs. 2009 Volkswagen Jetta TDI

DaveinOlyWA · 02-10-2009, 12:35 PM

lol... was going to comment on article in their feedback and got confused for a sec... thought i was on PC!! everyone there is from HERE~!!

hill · 02-10-2009, 12:45 PM

I DO like that it can be converted to bio fuel ... though there'll simply never be enough old french fry grease to go around, should too many folks convert (or other sources). I must have gone soft, too, when it comes to the 'drive' thingie ... you know ... hard cornering, etc. Back in the Porsche days, I appreciated it, and now that i'm in geezer-hood (53) I actually like the mush ride factor more akin the Prius. So my ride in the TDI felt too much like I was back in the go kart, as a kid ... rumbly, bumpy ... but I know, I know, that's called 'feeling the road' ... and such. I'm just not there any more.

DaveinOlyWA · 02-10-2009, 12:47 PM

ok, read half of it and realized that i was laughing so hard i could no longer comprehend what i was reading...

its too bad that it would take 8½ years to recoup purchase price in gas savings when we dont know what the price of gas will be (i am willing to bet it will be much much much higher than they predicted) but what i do know is that most people will keep their car MUCH longer than 8 years (latest stat was like 42% i think keep their car longer than 6 years, 32% longer than 10 years. but if looking at BRANDS alone, the numbers tell a much much different story with Toyota owners averaging 9 years of ownership overall compared to 5.5 years for the industry average)

obtw, gas just went up another 3 cents in my area. that makes 18 cents in the past 6 weeks... guess its about to stop going up now right??... right?

**Tideland Prius** · 02-10-2009, 06:02 PM

Funny how they uploaded this article after the Prius "lost" to the 2010 Insight too. Oh no... two strikes against the Prius!! haha.

DaveinOlyWA · 02-10-2009, 07:10 PM

well just out is greenest cars and the CNG Civic won first, our poor ole downtrodden Pri came in a miserable 2nd...

yep, its on its way out for sure... guess the 2010 is arriving just in time... i still predict the 2010 intro to do a repeat as COTY for Motortrend

**Tideland Prius** · 02-10-2009, 08:54 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by DaveinOlyWA

well just out is greenest cars and the CNG Civic won first, our poor ole downtrodden Pri came in a miserable 2nd...

yep, its on its way out for sure... guess the 2010 is arriving just in time... i still predict the 2010 intro to do a repeat as COTY for Motortrend

It'll have multiple COTY awards.

cycledrum · 02-11-2009, 01:10 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Tideland Prius

It'll have multiple COTY awards.

It's going to be funny watching reactions to a 2010 Prius ....

'that's a Prius? No way ... OMG ... I want one!'

I will have to reserve a little judgement until sitting in one to see how the center console works for or against legroom.

wogue · 02-11-2009, 06:13 AM

Hi,

there is a mentally less gifted "Car-Testing-Company" in every country claiming the diesel is the better choice.

I´m sick of that crap.

kr
w.

patsparks · 02-11-2009, 07:16 AM

I am going to embark on an email campaign.
I am going to email every car testing magazine or site and ask for a simple change to their test procedure.
Pay the testers $0.XX per mile driven as a fuel allowance and have the tester pay for all fuel used on the test. If there is money left after the tank is refilled at the end of the test, the tester keeps the change, if he has to pay more than the allowance then that's his tough luck, he will have to tighen the purse strings that week. Lets see how much fun a Lamborghini is when the gas is coming out of the tester's pocket? This will help simulate a real world situation that all car owners must carry, the cost of driving.

I bet that will make the MFD or consumption screen a lot more meaningful and useful. I'd say comparison tests might even become more fun for testers when there is actual money in it for them to drive economically.

subarutoo · 02-11-2009, 03:39 PM

I drove a rented VW Golf 2.0 TDI in France a few years for two weeks, and was overall impressed. I didn't have the Prius then, and might have gone for the Golf, if it was available in California. It didn't stink too much, or smoke, and the engine seemed as quiet and responsive as a "real" (gas) one. I think back about our last VW's (lack of) reliability (not a diesel), and how good the Prius has been, and there is no contest. Car testers don't have to live with the cars they test for any length of time. I'll take ANY Toyota over ANY VW, any time.

02-10-2009, 12:35 PM	#11
DaveinOlyWA 3rd Time was Solariffic!! Join Date: Apr 2004 Location: South Puget Sound, WA Posts: 12,377 My Car: 2010 Prius Model: IV Package: Solar Roof Thanks: 24 Thanked 121 Times in 103 Posts Friends: 10	Re: Comparison Test: 2009 Toyota Prius vs. 2009 Volkswagen Jetta TDI lol... was going to comment on article in their feedback and got confused for a sec... thought i was on PC!! everyone there is from HERE~!!

02-10-2009, 12:45 PM	#12
hill High Fiber Member Join Date: Jun 2005 Location: South OC So Cal & the Flathead Valley MT Posts: 3,871 My Car: 2004 Prius Model: Package: #9 Thanks: 15 Thanked 93 Times in 68 Posts Friends: 12	Re: Comparison Test: 2009 Toyota Prius vs. 2009 Volkswagen Jetta TDI I DO like that it can be converted to bio fuel ... though there'll simply never be enough old french fry grease to go around, should too many folks convert (or other sources). I must have gone soft, too, when it comes to the 'drive' thingie ... you know ... hard cornering, etc. Back in the Porsche days, I appreciated it, and now that i'm in geezer-hood (53) I actually like the mush ride factor more akin the Prius. So my ride in the TDI felt too much like I was back in the go kart, as a kid ... rumbly, bumpy ... but I know, I know, that's called 'feeling the road' ... and such. I'm just not there any more. __________________ I Prius Chat

02-10-2009, 12:47 PM	#13
DaveinOlyWA 3rd Time was Solariffic!! Join Date: Apr 2004 Location: South Puget Sound, WA Posts: 12,377 My Car: 2010 Prius Model: IV Package: Solar Roof Thanks: 24 Thanked 121 Times in 103 Posts Friends: 10	Re: Comparison Test: 2009 Toyota Prius vs. 2009 Volkswagen Jetta TDI ok, read half of it and realized that i was laughing so hard i could no longer comprehend what i was reading... its too bad that it would take 8½ years to recoup purchase price in gas savings when we dont know what the price of gas will be (i am willing to bet it will be much much much higher than they predicted) but what i do know is that most people will keep their car MUCH longer than 8 years (latest stat was like 42% i think keep their car longer than 6 years, 32% longer than 10 years. but if looking at BRANDS alone, the numbers tell a much much different story with Toyota owners averaging 9 years of ownership overall compared to 5.5 years for the industry average) obtw, gas just went up another 3 cents in my area. that makes 18 cents in the past 6 weeks... guess its about to stop going up now right??... right? __________________ My Blue 2010 : Last tank 541.9 @ 49.48 pump (56.7 MFD) 5.54 CPM, 21 MPH, Lifetime:5442.2 miles 56.5 MPG pump. (62.22 MFD) 4.72 CPM. Summer MPG 57.4 Winter: 49.5 My 2006 SPM: Last tank 376.6 miles @38.21 pump (40.8 MFD) 7.17 cpm winter mpg 49.64 summer mpg 53.41 lifetime: 42,563.5 miles 51.5 mpg pump (52.7 mpg MFD) 5.51 cpm My 2007 Zenn total "fuel cost" $166.58 on "about" 9599.7 miles. 1.74 cents per mile (granted i plug in for free at work!!) My Plate: DUALPWR (Dual Power)

02-10-2009, 06:02 PM	#14
Tideland Prius Moderator of the North Join Date: Oct 2004 Location: Canada Posts: 19,606 My Car: 2010 Prius Model: N/A Package: Technology Package (Canada) Thanks: 227 Thanked 343 Times in 242 Posts Friends: 23	Re: Comparison Test: 2009 Toyota Prius vs. 2009 Volkswagen Jetta TDI Funny how they uploaded this article after the Prius "lost" to the 2010 Insight too. Oh no... two strikes against the Prius!! haha.

02-10-2009, 07:10 PM	#15
DaveinOlyWA 3rd Time was Solariffic!! Join Date: Apr 2004 Location: South Puget Sound, WA Posts: 12,377 My Car: 2010 Prius Model: IV Package: Solar Roof Thanks: 24 Thanked 121 Times in 103 Posts Friends: 10	Re: Comparison Test: 2009 Toyota Prius vs. 2009 Volkswagen Jetta TDI well just out is greenest cars and the CNG Civic won first, our poor ole downtrodden Pri came in a miserable 2nd... yep, its on its way out for sure... guess the 2010 is arriving just in time... i still predict the 2010 intro to do a repeat as COTY for Motortrend

02-11-2009, 06:13 AM	#18
wogue Junior Member Join Date: Jun 2007 Location: EU/Austria/Graz Posts: 22 My Car: 2006 Prius Model: Package: C Thanks: 0 Thanked 0 Times in 0 Posts Friends: 0	Re: Comparison Test: 2009 Toyota Prius vs. 2009 Volkswagen Jetta TDI Hi, there is a mentally less gifted "Car-Testing-Company" in every country claiming the diesel is the better choice. I´m sick of that crap. kr w.

02-11-2009, 07:16 AM	#19
patsparks An Aussie perspective Join Date: Jul 2007 Location: Adelaide South Australia Posts: 9,186 My Car: 2004 Prius Model: N/A Package: Base Thanks: 120 Thanked 179 Times in 137 Posts Friends: 33	Re: Comparison Test: 2009 Toyota Prius vs. 2009 Volkswagen Jetta TDI I am going to embark on an email campaign. I am going to email every car testing magazine or site and ask for a simple change to their test procedure. Pay the testers $0.XX per mile driven as a fuel allowance and have the tester pay for all fuel used on the test. If there is money left after the tank is refilled at the end of the test, the tester keeps the change, if he has to pay more than the allowance then that's his tough luck, he will have to tighen the purse strings that week. Lets see how much fun a Lamborghini is when the gas is coming out of the tester's pocket? This will help simulate a real world situation that all car owners must carry, the cost of driving. I bet that will make the MFD or consumption screen a lot more meaningful and useful. I'd say comparison tests might even become more fun for testers when there is actual money in it for them to drive economically. __________________ All the warranty I need. Still averaging 4.4L/100km across town 2004 silver base model Prius Shark fin, genuine mudflaps, colour matched side mouldings, rear bumper scuff guard, sheepskin seats, BT Plate. I love it! Last edited by patsparks; 02-11-2009 at 07:18 AM.

02-11-2009, 03:39 PM	#20
subarutoo Senior Member Join Date: Jan 2006 Location: Chatsworth, CA Posts: 1,176 My Car: 2006 Prius Model: Package: #6 Thanks: 0 Thanked 6 Times in 4 Posts Friends: 0	Re: Comparison Test: 2009 Toyota Prius vs. 2009 Volkswagen Jetta TDI I drove a rented VW Golf 2.0 TDI in France a few years for two weeks, and was overall impressed. I didn't have the Prius then, and might have gone for the Golf, if it was available in California. It didn't stink too much, or smoke, and the engine seemed as quiet and responsive as a "real" (gas) one. I think back about our last VW's (lack of) reliability (not a diesel), and how good the Prius has been, and there is no contest. Car testers don't have to live with the cars they test for any length of time. I'll take ANY Toyota over ANY VW, any time. __________________ Chatsworth, CA 06 Prius, White, Option 6, Visual Garage Shark Fin Antenna, BT Chassis Plate, BFG G-Force Sport 205-60 15 NO trim rings, Scangauge II. Other cars: '96 Subaru Outback, '00 Subaru Impreza RS

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