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Old 10-15-2009, 03:28 PM   #41
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While that Lexus was not a Hybrid, it does have push button start/stop.
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Old 10-16-2009, 03:15 AM   #42
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Default Re: Toyota to Use Zip Ties to Fix Floor Mats

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Several drive-by-wire cars have a brake-accelerator interlock: when the car is moving, if both the brake and accelerator are pressed the accelerator is ignored. That seems worthwhile for the PR value alone starting in the next model year. It's too expensive for any sensible recall, of course.
So here's the deal as I see it. No fancy interlock is needed. I don't think there is a mass produced car on the road that can overcome the brakes with the engine. I don't care what car you're in... if it starts going to fast, don't look for the shifter or the ignition... STOMP on the brakes. Use both feet. Whatever it takes. Get the car slowed down and THEN look around for how to shut it off or disable it. There is no mystery, and no rocket science needed. Just use the brakes.

An interlock is a great idea. But not every car will have it of course, and nobody thinks clearly in a panic situation. USE THE BRAKES. And if the brakes don't work then... well panic.
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Old 10-16-2009, 05:18 PM   #43
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Default Re: Toyota to Use Zip Ties to Fix Floor Mats

Costco have Michelin rubber floor mats for $10 off , down to $26 for 4
Will try them when the wife gettes back in a couple of weeks

Does it come with Zip ties LOL
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Old 10-16-2009, 06:50 PM   #44
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I have the all weather mats and the gas pedal is not close to the mat
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Old 10-18-2009, 12:38 PM   #45
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Default Re: Toyota to Use Zip Ties to Fix Floor Mats

Friends believe CHP officer did all he could to avoid crash

By Debbi Baker
Union-Tribune Staff Writer
2:00 a.m. October 18, 2009
Click the image to open in full size.CHP Officer Mark Saylor died with family members in a wreck Aug. 28. (Courtesy family)


Click the image to open in full size.Mark Saylor, 45; daughter, Mahala, 13; and wife, Cleofe, 45, of Chula Vista were believed to be headed to Mahala's soccer practice when they died in a Santee crash. (Courtesy family)


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The constant second-guessing only added to their grief after losing their friend and fellow highway patrol officer and his family in one horrifying instant. Second-guessing from strangers over what Mark Saylor tried to do to stop a borrowed Lexus speeding down a highway out of his control at an estimated 120 mph.
Saylor and his wife, daughter and brother-in-law died in the fiery August crash where state Route 125 runs into Mission Gorge Road in Santee.
Did Saylor yank up on the accelerator? Did he try to shut off the engine?
“I'm positive he did everything he could do,” said Mike May, who worked alongside Saylor at the San Diego office of the California Highway Patrol.
May and CHP Officer John Concepcion spoke yesterday about their friend, providing the first detailed interviews about Saylor.
Both pointed to the 911 call that Saylor's brother-in-law made seconds before the car hurtled off the road, and remarked at how calm his voice was and how there seemed to be no panic in the car.
“I know his family had all their faith in him that he was doing what he could to stop that car,” May said Go to complete article Friends believe CHP officer did all he could to avoid crash - SignOnSanDiego.com
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Old 10-24-2009, 04:53 AM   #46
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Default Re: Toyota to Use Zip Ties to Fix Floor Mats

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So here's the deal as I see it. No fancy interlock is needed. I don't think there is a mass produced car on the road that can overcome the brakes with the engine.
Unfortunately it's not quite as straightforward as that.

The brake servo in most cars runs off a vacuum generated by the action of the throttle valve in the air intake manifold of the engine. When the accelerator pedal is floored, this valve is fully open and as a result, the usual vacuum is significantly reduced (if not eliminated) as nothing but the air filter element stands in the way of air rushing into the engine. Push the pedal a couple of times in that state and the servo assistance could be gone.

I guess this may not be a problem in the Prius, which has an electric air pump to supply the vacuum, as it needs servo support even when the ICE is stopped.
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