You think the PRIUS has a Plug? THIS is a PLUG

hill · 10-20-2009, 10:44 PM

From the BBC:

BBC NEWS | Science & Environment | Harrabin's Notes: Electric promise

Holy molie ... now THAT'LL spin your meter. And a 240 mile range? Woah.

And it'll be here up & running by the end of the year ... what, 2 months? I just can't figure out why it is the all the other makers are quoting 10 15 or 40 paltry miles for a PHEV.
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richard schumacher · 10-20-2009, 11:09 PM

240 miles on one charge? Ehh, OK, but how many times? I'll believe it when I see it.

DaveinOlyWA · 10-21-2009, 12:39 AM

ya, saw this on the EV forums. anyone see a link with details?

cwerdna · 10-21-2009, 02:42 AM

I wonder how it'll do in a crash test.

Too bad the video at In German crash test, China's Brilliance BS6 sedan fails miserably — Autoblog was removed but Crash Brilliance BS6 - Video is still up.

YouTube - Chinese 4WD crash test

is another gem.

patsparks · 10-21-2009, 03:12 AM

Would be great if it happens. I could tour in a car with a 400km range between charges and 1 hour charge. I Think after 4 hours driving it would be time for a rest anyway. If the recharge stations have restaurants attached they would make a killing once the whole thing takes off.

ken1784 · 10-21-2009, 03:39 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by DaveinOlyWA

anyone see a link with details?

Not so much details, but following is their site.
BYD Auto,Build Your Dreams

On the "FEATURES" page...
electric consumption: 18kWh/100km(62miles) -> 290Wh/mile
EV range: 400km(249miles)
charge time: 10 minutes for 50% capacity

which means...
The battery has 72kWh capacity -> That's huge! My guess is it's more than 2000 lbs and more than 10 cu-ft.

The 10 minutes charge for 36kWh means we need 216kW power.

It's almost 1000A at 220V. That's huge!

Ken@Japan

David Beale · 10-21-2009, 10:27 AM

No Ken, that's nonsense. It's just not true because it's just not possible. Has -anyone- here seen a 230V 1000A service? I didn't think so. You'd be hard pressed just to pick up the plug-in cable! Never mind how much force would be required to actually plug it in!

hill · 10-21-2009, 10:34 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by David Beale

No Ken, that's nonsense. It's just not true because it's just not possible. Has -anyone- here seen a 230V 1000A service? I didn't think so. You'd be hard pressed just to pick up the plug-in cable! Never mind how much force would be required to actually plug it in!

Not here in the U.S. . . . but did you see the fire-hose sized recharge cable on that sucker in the article?

patsparks · 10-21-2009, 11:42 AM

Why not?
If the charge station has on site storage and the cable it heavy enough to carry the current it can be done. But that energy flow rate is between the on site storage and the car battery so the amperage might be much higher while the voltage is low.

Remember that home charging will take 8 hours, that is 21 amps at 415 volts, the voltage used here for high energy equipment like full home refrigerated air-conditioners and industrial machines. That is, if the battery is dead flat.

grand total · 10-21-2009, 11:59 AM

And look at the weight of what is essentially a Prius sized car - 2020kg. That's a lot of battery, maybe a half ton(ne) or more.

10-20-2009, 10:44 PM	#1
hill High Fiber Member Join Date: Jun 2005 Location: South OC So Cal & the Flathead Valley MT Posts: 3,890 My Car: 2004 Prius Model: Package: #9 Thanks: 15 Thanked 93 Times in 68 Posts Friends: 12	You think the PRIUS has a Plug? THIS is a PLUG From the BBC: BBC NEWS \| Science & Environment \| Harrabin's Notes: Electric promise Holy molie ... now THAT'LL spin your meter. And a 240 mile range? Woah. And it'll be here up & running by the end of the year ... what, 2 months? I just can't figure out why it is the all the other makers are quoting 10 15 or 40 paltry miles for a PHEV. . Last edited by hill; 10-20-2009 at 10:47 PM.

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10-21-2009, 03:12 AM	#5
patsparks An Aussie perspective Join Date: Jul 2007 Location: Adelaide South Australia Posts: 9,268 My Car: 2004 Prius Model: N/A Package: Base Thanks: 133 Thanked 185 Times in 143 Posts Friends: 33	Re: You think the PRIUS has a Plug? THIS is a PLUG Would be great if it happens. I could tour in a car with a 400km range between charges and 1 hour charge. I Think after 4 hours driving it would be time for a rest anyway. If the recharge stations have restaurants attached they would make a killing once the whole thing takes off.

10-21-2009, 10:27 AM	#7
David Beale Senior Member Join Date: Jul 2006 Location: Edmonton Alberta Posts: 2,116 My Car: 2007 Prius Model: Package: B Thanks: 3 Thanked 77 Times in 58 Posts Friends: 0	Re: You think the PRIUS has a Plug? THIS is a PLUG No Ken, that's nonsense. It's just not true because it's just not possible. Has -anyone- here seen a 230V 1000A service? I didn't think so. You'd be hard pressed just to pick up the plug-in cable! Never mind how much force would be required to actually plug it in!

10-21-2009, 11:42 AM	#9
patsparks An Aussie perspective Join Date: Jul 2007 Location: Adelaide South Australia Posts: 9,268 My Car: 2004 Prius Model: N/A Package: Base Thanks: 133 Thanked 185 Times in 143 Posts Friends: 33	Re: You think the PRIUS has a Plug? THIS is a PLUG Why not? If the charge station has on site storage and the cable it heavy enough to carry the current it can be done. But that energy flow rate is between the on site storage and the car battery so the amperage might be much higher while the voltage is low. Remember that home charging will take 8 hours, that is 21 amps at 415 volts, the voltage used here for high energy equipment like full home refrigerated air-conditioners and industrial machines. That is, if the battery is dead flat. Last edited by patsparks; 10-21-2009 at 11:45 AM.

10-21-2009, 11:59 AM	#10
grand total Senior Member Join Date: Sep 2007 Location: Ontario, Canada Posts: 122 My Car: 2008 Prius Model: Package: B Thanks: 0 Thanked 0 Times in 0 Posts Friends: 0	Re: You think the PRIUS has a Plug? THIS is a PLUG And look at the weight of what is essentially a Prius sized car - 2020kg. That's a lot of battery, maybe a half ton(ne) or more.

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