Toyota eats Volkswagen's lunch. Prius outsells TDI by 4X

[DaveinOlyWA]

Originally Posted by F8L

Of course you are right. I would never pass up an affordable high HP/TQ hybrid or PHEV! I still love horespower but I am happy with the Prius.

To answer your question, I started learning more about my impact to my community and the environment we all rely on and I just couldn't stomach driving those beasts anymore. Although the Corvette did get excellent milage (28-30mpg)! So I decided to make changes in my life. I pleased with my choice.

These were the two trucks i sold in 2005. The blue truck made more HP than any of my cars lol

Man!! that is a great pair of ..ah..."trucks" there!

[F8L]

Originally Posted by DaveinOlyWA

Man!! that is a great pair of ..ah..."trucks" there!

Aftermarket headlights to be sure but I wasn't complaining!

Ok back on topic!

I kinda like the TDI Wagon. lol

[timo27]

Originally Posted by F8L

Sedans suck! My last 6 cars have been hatchbacks:

#1 1990 Mustang GT
#2 1987 Mustang GT
#3 2000 Trans Am
#4 1999 Camaro Z28
#5 2000 C5 Corvette
#6 2005 Prius (the best of them all)

I share your sentiments. My automotive history:

#1 '77 Honda Civic. Basically a motorcycle with a couple of doors. I was probably the only 16 yr old in my circle of friends who thought at the time it was a good idea to wear a seatbelt.

#2 '81 Buick Sh*tbir^^ er, uh, Skylark. Say no more.

#3 '85 VW Golf. Reliability exemplary, compared to #2. Started up and even ran. Most of the time. A big improvement, until...

#4 '93 Integra. Reset my definition of reliability. Non - maintenance costs over 10yrs came to exactly $80, for a fuel injector relay. Might still have it, had I not test- driven...

#5 '03 RSX type S. Most fun of my bunch to drive. No problems whatsoever in 105K mi. Consistently 30+ mpg, and pushed 40 on long trips, blowing away even the old EPA estimates. But it drank premium. Plus, what good is 200 hp at 7200 rpm in the kind of traffic we have around here?

#6 2010 Prius. Love it. Miss it (in the shop, for probably a long time)

All with one excruciatingly forgettable exception were hatchbacks, and that's what I want--to be able to carry a bike or other stuff around inside the car when I want to. The "press" might call my tastes unusual for an American, but really, what do they give us to choose from? Sedans and FUVs, mainly.

btw, F8L, how do you like your switch from rwd to fwd? I've always liked the neutral handling of the few rwd cars I've driven, but just try it in an ice storm.

[F8L]

Originally Posted by timo27

I share your sentiments. My automotive history:

#1 '77 Honda Civic. Basically a motorcycle with a couple of doors. I was probably the only 16 yr old in my circle of friends who thought at the time it was a good idea to wear a seatbelt.

#2 '81 Buick Sh*tbir^^ er, uh, Skylark. Say no more.

#3 '85 VW Golf. Reliability exemplary, compared to #2. Started up and even ran. Most of the time. A big improvement, until...

#4 '93 Integra. Reset my definition of reliability. Non - maintenance costs over 10yrs came to exactly $80, for a fuel injector relay. Might still have it, had I not test- driven...

#5 '03 RSX type S. Most fun of my bunch to drive. No problems whatsoever in 105K mi. Consistently 30+ mpg, and pushed 40 on long trips, blowing away even the old EPA estimates. But it drank premium. Plus, what good is 200 hp at 7200 rpm in the kind of traffic we have around here?

#6 2010 Prius. Love it. Miss it (in the shop, for probably a long time)

All with one excruciatingly forgettable exception were hatchbacks, and that's what I want--to be able to carry a bike or other stuff around inside the car when I want to. The "press" might call my tastes unusual for an American, but really, what do they give us to choose from? Sedans and FUVs, mainly.

btw, F8L, how do you like your switch from rwd to fwd? I've always liked the neutral handling of the few rwd cars I've driven, but just try it in an ice storm.

Bird of a feather yeah? Except for the Buick. What were you thinking man? Hahaha

I generally like rwd much better but when it is really wet out or icy the FWD isn't so bad.

[patsparks]

Originally Posted by F8L

Sedans suck! My last 6 cars have been hatchbacks:

#1 1990 Mustang GT
#2 1987 Mustang GT
#3 2000 Trans Am
#4 1999 Camaro Z28
#5 2000 C5 Corvette
#6 2005 Prius (the best of them all)

I see, you were attracted to the hatch back design for it's utility and practicality.

[F8L]

Originally Posted by patsparks

I see, you were attracted to the hatch back design for it's utility and practicality.

Aye, you could stick a whole bunch of large speakers back there and the transfer function gave you incredible bass response.

It also made it easier when lugging racing slicks to the track with you.

[usbseawolf2000]

Well, the Jetta TDI outsold the Insight. Tax credit ($2k) for the TDI surely helped. Honda's decision to bring back the Insight backfired for sure. The sale of HCH tanked after the Insight II came out.

It is clear that the Prius gives the most bang for the buck. Prius best MPG over Jetta TDI in both highway and city (especially) driving. To be fair, there should be tax credit for the Prius as well.

[Rybold]

Originally Posted by F8L

It also made it easier when lugging racing slicks to the track with you.

My dad used to fold down the rear seat in his 1964 Corvette to carry racing slicks. You could fit quite a lot back there. At the same time, I think those fold down seats in 1964 might have something to do with why I am here today.

[F8L]

Originally Posted by Rybold

My dad used to fold down the rear seat in his 1964 Corvette to carry racing slicks. You could fit quite a lot back there. At the same time, I think those fold down seats in 1964 might have something to do with why I am here today.

Well then, I'm glad your dad bought that car then. LOL