Toyota eats Volkswagen's lunch. Prius outsells TDI by 4X

[Rybold]

Prius outsells Jetta TDI 4 to 1.

The general public is clearly favoring hybrids over diesels.

Hybrid and VW Diesel Sales Analysis: Prius Outsells Insight 8 to 1, Jetta TDI 4 to 1 | The Truth About Cars

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[bwilson4web]

The numbers are useful but there could be supply problems for both hybrids and diesels. The ratios may reflect the limits of manufacturing.

Bob Wilson

[F8L]

Originally Posted by bwilson4web

The numbers are useful but there could be supply problems for both hybrids and diesels. The ratios may reflect the limits of manufacturing.

Bob Wilson

That was my first thought. The terms may not be totally even.

Thannks for posting the link though Rybold!

[Sacto1549]

According to what I've read, VW has not brought that many TDI cars to the USA. However, this will change soon once the Golf TDI (based on the Mk. VI Golf) arrives within the next month or so.

[john1701a]

Originally Posted by Sacto1549

According to what I've read, VW has not brought that many TDI cars to the USA. However, this will change soon once the Golf TDI (based on the Mk. VI Golf) arrives within the next month or so.

Better check the date of what you read.

116 Golf TDI were purchased in the US in October.

Supply could still be an issue, but we've been hearing the same story for 3 years now. Remember when ULSD (Ultra Low Sulfur Diesel) became available?
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[sola]

I don't think there should be any supply problems for TDIs. Volkswagen likely builds them here in Europe along with the EU models. They are building loads of those models because they are popular here.

I wouldn't buy a Golf or Jetta diesel if I had the option for a Prius or similar. They are the same old tech as gas cars, nothing new or inspiring. Their relatively better efficiency simply comes from the higher energy content of diesel.

In the EU it is not mandatory to equip diesels (in most of the countries) with particulate filters and diesels are 50% of car sales. You can imagine the air quality we have, it is just catastrophic. I would be the happiest person in the world if diesels were simply banned here. Air quality would improve a LOT since, at fleet level, gas cars pollute an awful less, if PDFs are not forced.

Electrification is the way to go, diesel is a dead end.

[seftonm]

The Golf will not be as big of a seller here are the Jetta unless North American buyer habits change. Many people prefer sedans over hatchbacks. The Jetta often outsells the Golf 5-to-1. Golfs of all sorts are still just arriving at dealers though so sales could appear low for Golfs in the near future.

[F8L]

Originally Posted by seftonm

The Golf will not be as big of a seller here are the Jetta unless North American buyer habits change. Many people prefer sedans over hatchbacks.

Sedans suck! My last 6 cars have been hatchbacks:

#1 1990 Mustang GT
#2 1987 Mustang GT
#3 2000 Trans Am
#4 1999 Camaro Z28
#5 2000 C5 Corvette
#6 2005 Prius (the best of them all)

[Rybold]

Originally Posted by F8L

Sedans suck! My last 6 cars have been hatchbacks:

#1 1990 Mustang GT
#2 1987 Mustang GT
#3 2000 Trans Am
#4 1999 Camaro Z28
#5 2000 C5 Corvette
#6 2005 Prius (the best of them all)

Wow. You went from quite a muscle-car heritage to a hybrid. I congratulate you for driving a hybrid, but how? How did you possibly go from such a long line of muscle cars to a hybrid?
(I suppose you are waiting for more powerful hybrids and phevs to come to market over the next few years, right? I am. )

[F8L]

Originally Posted by Rybold

Wow. You went from quite a muscle-car heritage to a hybrid. I congratulate you for driving a hybrid, but how? How did you possibly go from such a long line of muscle cars to a hybrid?
(I suppose you are waiting for more powerful hybrids and phevs to come to market over the next few years, right? I am. )

Of course you are right. I would never pass up an affordable high HP/TQ hybrid or PHEV! I still love horespower but I am happy with the Prius.

To answer your question, I started learning more about my impact to my community and the environment we all rely on and I just couldn't stomach driving those beasts anymore. Although the Corvette did get excellent milage (28-30mpg)! So I decided to make changes in my life. I pleased with my choice.

These were the two trucks i sold in 2005. The blue truck made more HP than any of my cars lol