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Old 11-10-2005, 02:40 PM   #1
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Well THAT experiment was a bust: placing the stickers inside the rear side windows (without using adhesive - just setting them there). The Bay Bridge CHP officer was humorless and unsympathetic - the deals HAVE to be where the DMV indicates, NO EXCEPTIONS. I think this was not the first such citation he'd written.

So I'll try my hand at a reduced or forgiven fine in court - I haven't any idea what the fine for decal placement is [V.C. 21655-9(] - I wonder if it's the same $400 that a car pool violation is. Well, as events unfold I'll add addendums to this post.

Meanwhile, does anyone have a line on weak adhesives I can affix to the decal backings (I'm not going to remove them from their backings because them I'm committed on their placement and it's too soon to cave in completely and plaster banners all over the poor Prius like a damn circus boxcar) and thence affix to the bumpers without actually permanently gluing them thereon? I know that some were thinking of gluing strong magnets to the inside of the fenders and bumpers so that the decals could be glued to business card magnetic material and that's a possible way to go but weak adhesive is easier and faster if such exists.

One last question for Bay Bridge crossers - does FastTrak hit the transponder for tolls using the far right hand car pool lanes? I don't get a beep tone over there, but do get beeped using the left hand lane that goes through a toll booth (although the electric sign says $0.00 - I guess I'll find out on my next FastTrak statement).

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Old 11-10-2005, 04:43 PM   #2
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First, it's clear the officer is unhappy with the mileage of his privately-owned Crown Vic, and he's gonna get payback one way or another...

Second, this is bad news for those of us who have placed them at OTHER than DMV locations. I have my side stickers on the rear quarter windows. Front is on the windshield (bra would cover the bumper sticker), and the rear on the small lower rear window. They are at least all on the outside where they can be seen easily. But by the letter of the law, they are not where they are supposed to be.

Did you have any visible from the front or rear? Your post only mentions the side windows. Or were front/rear in the DMV locations?

Damn.
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Did you have any visible from the front or rear?  Your post only mentions the side windows.  Or were front/rear in the DMV locations?
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No front or rear sticker - that's why he pulled me over initially (he claims he didn't see the stickers in the side windows & perhaps he didn't as I passed him going thru the toll booth lane). I asked him if could I put the rear sticker below the spoiler (where yours is) & he said "only where DMV says you should put them."

A bureaucrat to the core, that one.

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I finaly just got my stickers today. I will be putting them where they should go. Luckily I have 3M film on my front bumper so that's no problem at all. I suppose I could slap a small peice of film on the rear bumper and stick the sticker over it. Hmmm <_<
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Originally posted by airportkid@Nov 10 2005, 02:40 PM
Well THAT experiment was a bust:  placing the stickers inside the rear side windows (without using adhesive - just setting them there).  The Bay Bridge CHP officer was humorless and unsympathetic - the deals HAVE to be where the DMV indicates, NO EXCEPTIONS.  I think this was not the first such citation he'd written.

So I'll try my hand at a reduced or forgiven fine in court - I haven't any idea what the fine for decal placement is [V.C. 21655-9(] - I wonder if it's the same $400 that a car pool violation is.  Well, as events unfold I'll add addendums to this post.

Meanwhile, does anyone have a line on weak adhesives I can affix to the decal backings (I'm not going to remove them from their backings because them I'm committed on their placement and it's too soon to cave in completely and plaster banners all over the poor Prius like a damn circus boxcar) and thence affix to the bumpers without actually permanently gluing them thereon?  I know that some were thinking of gluing strong magnets to the inside of the fenders and bumpers so that the decals could be glued to business card magnetic material and that's a possible way to go but weak adhesive is easier and faster if such exists.

One last question for Bay Bridge crossers - does FastTrak hit the transponder for tolls using the far right hand car pool lanes?  I don't get a beep tone over there, but do get beeped using the left hand lane that goes through a toll booth (although the electric sign says $0.00 - I guess I'll find out on my next FastTrak statement).

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Well THAT experiment was a bust:  placing the stickers inside the rear side windows (without using adhesive - just setting them there).  The Bay Bridge CHP officer was humorless and unsympathetic - the deals HAVE to be where the DMV indicates, NO EXCEPTIONS.  I think this was not the first such citation he'd written.

So I'll try my hand at a reduced or forgiven fine in court - I haven't any idea what the fine for decal placement is [V.C. 21655-9(] - I wonder if it's the same $400 that a car pool violation is.  Well, as events unfold I'll add addendums to this post.

Meanwhile, does anyone have a line on weak adhesives I can affix to the decal backings (I'm not going to remove them from their backings because them I'm committed on their placement and it's too soon to cave in completely and plaster banners all over the poor Prius like a damn circus boxcar) and thence affix to the bumpers without actually permanently gluing them thereon?  I know that some were thinking of gluing strong magnets to the inside of the fenders and bumpers so that the decals could be glued to business card magnetic material and that's a possible way to go but weak adhesive is easier and faster if such exists.

One last question for Bay Bridge crossers - does FastTrak hit the transponder for tolls using the far right hand car pool lanes?  I don't get a beep tone over there, but do get beeped using the left hand lane that goes through a toll booth (although the electric sign says $0.00 - I guess I'll find out on my next FastTrak statement).

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I haven't been on PriusChat in a while, and it's changed a lot. I don't know if I'm doing this correctly, but in any case ... I just got my stickers today, but they didn't come with any directions whatsoever. I went on the DMV website, but couldn't find directions there, either. Can someone please tell me exactly where the stickers have to be placed? I don't want to take the chance of doing it incorrectly. Do I have to use all 4 of them?

I live in Los Angeles, if that makes any difference.

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Go to a local sign shop and pick up some scrap pieces of vinyl sticker big enough so that your HOV sticker will fit on top of it. There should be plenty lying around in the trash that they would be happy to give you. Then stick your HOV decal directly on the vinyl... then just trace over the HOV sticker with an exacto.. PRESTO... a sticker that will NOT damage your paint if you ever decide to remove it.

Any motivation that you guys can think of for thieves nabbing these things, and what is the policy if that happens.. hmmm??

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I haven't been on PriusChat in a while, and it's changed a lot.  I don't know if I'm doing this correctly, but in any case ... I just got my stickers today, but they didn't come with any directions whatsoever.  I went on the DMV website, but couldn't find directions there, either.  Can someone please tell me exactly where the stickers have to be placed?  I don't want to take the chance of doing it incorrectly.  Do I have to use all 4 of them? 

I live in Los Angeles, if that makes any difference.

Thanks for your help!
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The instructions are on the back of a return envolope. You must stick the 2 large ones on both sides at the rear quarter panel. You must also stick one of the small stickers on the right of the front bumber and the other on the right of the rear bumper. In the end you should be able to see a large sticker from either side of the car and a small sticker from the front or rear.
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