How many will accept an '06 in '05?

[Wayne]

Jack suggested I poll this, and at the time I thought "naw"... Then I saw the frenzied "THE 2006 IS HERE!!!!!" thread, and I just HAD to know -- How many US citizens, seriously contemplating the purchase of an '06, are going to give up a whopping $3,000+ tax credit just to take delivery a few weeks earlier? Curious how this will shake out...

By the way, if your reason is because your dealer told you that you can only buy it for MSRP in '05, then you really should spend some time talking to more than 1 dealer and playing them against one another. I sure can see how salesmen would use such a tactic to get you to buy "now"...

Let's limit this only to US citizens seriously planning a '06 purchase. The rest of you just use the "show results" button. I also couldn't find a way to limit the timeframe of the poll, but let's stop voting on Dec 1st. Obviously, the closer we get to '06, the less meaningful the question. Thanks!

[moonbeam]

Originally posted by Wayne@Nov 20 2005, 01:38 PM

By the way, if your reason is because your dealer told you that you can only buy it for MSRP in '05, then you really should spend some time talking to more than 1 dealer and playing them against one another.  I sure can see how salesmen would use such a tactic to get you to buy "now"...

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This is what I did to get MSRP. I requested delivery in 06, and after the "I'll check with my manager" bit they said that would be ok.

Now, here is the real hard question. If my exact order with all my preferences were to arrive early... it would be tempting to accept delivery. But if it were just "a matter of weeks", I think I would say "no way" and put myself back on the bottom of the list and wait.

William

[Jack 06]

Hey, hey, now, let's not go blaming our funky polls on some amorphous "Jack". :P

It's a legitimate question. Actually, to me, it's just as legitimate to include '05s in the question, since they're eligible for the '06 break. If I had "ordered" an '05 in, say, June-July, thinking it would be here in Aug.-Sept.,and then the dealer had told me it wasn't coming until around now, I'd have been negotiating with him in Oct. to either hold it over for me until 01/02, or put me at the top of the list for an '06. But probably not too many are affected in this way.

It'll be interesting to see how Prius sales figures for Nov.and Dec. come out, compared to the 9,000+ they've been selling the last few months.

From the posts I see on PC here and there, it's about evenly divided between those who'll drive one away in Dec. if it comes in, and those who insist on waiting.

[QED]

I just got the word that my Prius (gee, doesn't that sound nice..MY Prius) is scheduled for December production and January delivery!!!
I hope I don't have to decide on accepting one earlier than Jan (say someone else on the list passes).

But.......I'm pretty sure the response would be "no way". The tax break is too good...and now I can see light at the end of the tunnel (yes, it's the sun glinting off the chrome of a brand new Prius ) Been to a department store in the last couple of weeks. It feels like Christmas already. 2006 is just around the corner!!!

[TulsaTime]

yes AMT sucks, but gives me a reason not to wait

[3c3]

Originally posted by Wayne@Nov 20 2005, 11:38 AM
Let's limit this only to US citizens seriously planning a '06 purchase.

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Should be US citizens and residents who have to pay income tax.

[Wayne]

Originally posted by 3c3@Nov 20 2005, 05:27 PM
Should be US citizens and residents who have to pay income tax.

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No, a US citizen who doesn't pay income tax would have one of the reasons to accept delivery in '05...

[3c3]

Originally posted by Wayne@Nov 20 2005, 02:48 PM
No, a US citizen who doesn't pay income tax would have one of the reasons to accept delivery in '05...

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I'm not following. Someone who doesn't pay income tax has no incentive to wait until 2006. Shouldn't they be excluded from this poll?

[Wayne]

Originally posted by 3c3@Nov 20 2005, 06:00 PM
I'm not following.  Someone who doesn't pay income tax has no incentive to wait until 2006.  Shouldn't they be excluded from this poll?

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I'm interested in finding out how many people in the US will accept delivery of a 2006 in 2005. Some do it because they need a car now. Some do it because they think they won't get MSRP in '06. But some may do it because they don't pay income taxes, and therefore won't get the tax break. That's fair.

BTW, I want to find out how I can stop paying income taxes!

[gnagel]

Originally posted by 3c3@Nov 20 2005, 05:00 PM
I'm not following.  Someone who doesn't pay income tax has no incentive to wait until 2006.  Shouldn't they be excluded from this poll?

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A tax CREDIT can be realized by anyone, whether they owe taxes or not.

If you don't owe federal taxes, you'll get a refund from the government for the amount of the credit. Credits are so much more powerful than deductions!