Prius Infringing Copyright

Wynder · 01-13-2006, 10:44 AM

Errr.. Patent. My bad.

Article here...

>> A technology company is taking aim at Toyota, saying that the company's gas-electric hybrid Prius and Highlander vehicles infringe on its U.S. patents.
Solomon Technologies, Inc. announced today that it has expanded its litigation against Toyota by filing a complaint with the United States International Trade Commission (ITC) in Washington D.C. This action is in addition to the action already filed in the United States District Court for the Middle District of Florida last September.

Here's the Patent...

kidtwist · 01-13-2006, 11:06 AM

I see you corrected yourself. It's a patent.

Copyrights and patents are very different. For example, Toyota need never have even known about this company, their technology or their patent but they could still be found guilty of patent infringement. If it were a copyright in question and they could prove they'd never heard of it, they would be not guilty. This is an important distinction because most people assume that patent infringement equals theft. It doesn't. Their are many other differences as well.

Basically, the US patent system is royally screwed up. Patents are granted right and left for no good reason, giving companies government-enforced monopolies lasting 20 years (and I think renewable for another 20). In this case, I believe there is evidence that the patented technology (a part of regenerative braking) was already invented by someone else years before the patent was applied for. Doesn't necesarrily make it a slam dunk for Toyota. You never know what a court will do.

Wynder · 01-13-2006, 11:36 AM

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Originally posted by kidtwist@Jan 13 2006, 12:06 PM
I see you corrected yourself. It's a patent.

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As a musician who has copyrighted my own music, I, personally, am well aware of the differences -- I'm just so used to discussing copyrights, I miswrote the subject.

**tag** · 01-13-2006, 11:52 AM

Not sure SOLM has any choice other than to try to generate revenue from lawsuits since it appears as if they're unable to sell anything:

http://money.cnn.com/quote/financials/fina...&period=quarter

01-13-2006, 11:06 AM	#2
kidtwist Join Date: Feb 2005 Location: San Diego, CA Posts: 183 My Car: Package: Nominated 0 Times in 0 Posts TOTM Awards: 0 Friends: 0	I see you corrected yourself. It's a patent. Copyrights and patents are very different. For example, Toyota need never have even known about this company, their technology or their patent but they could still be found guilty of patent infringement. If it were a copyright in question and they could prove they'd never heard of it, they would be not guilty. This is an important distinction because most people assume that patent infringement equals theft. It doesn't. Their are many other differences as well. Basically, the US patent system is royally screwed up. Patents are granted right and left for no good reason, giving companies government-enforced monopolies lasting 20 years (and I think renewable for another 20). In this case, I believe there is evidence that the patented technology (a part of regenerative braking) was already invented by someone else years before the patent was applied for. Doesn't necesarrily make it a slam dunk for Toyota. You never know what a court will do. __________________ Mark CPO (Certifiable Prius Owner) Best Tank - 52.8 mpg 1st Tank - 46.2 mpg 2nd Tank - 51.3 mpg

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01-13-2006, 10:44 AM	#1
Wynder Join Date: Oct 2005 Location: Bear, Delaware Posts: 254 My Car: Package: Nominated 0 Times in 0 Posts TOTM Awards: 0 Friends: 0	Errr.. Patent. My bad. Article here... >> A technology company is taking aim at Toyota, saying that the company's gas-electric hybrid Prius and Highlander vehicles infringe on its U.S. patents. Solomon Technologies, Inc. announced today that it has expanded its litigation against Toyota by filing a complaint with the United States International Trade Commission (ITC) in Washington D.C. This action is in addition to the action already filed in the United States District Court for the Middle District of Florida last September. Here's the Patent...

01-13-2006, 11:52 AM	#4
tag Super Moderator Join Date: Nov 2003 Location: Chicago Posts: 2,527 My Car: Package: Nominated 0 Times in 0 Posts TOTM Awards: 0 Friends: 0	Not sure SOLM has any choice other than to try to generate revenue from lawsuits since it appears as if they're unable to sell anything: http://money.cnn.com/quote/financials/fina...&period=quarter