2008 Expiration date of CA HOV sticker program

[pfile]

Originally posted by cwerdna@Jan 14 2006, 12:05 PM
It's too bad that I didn't know about this until seeing posts yesterday. I guess I didn't read all the stipulations and it certainly wasn't well publicized in the media at all.

If I'd known about this, I might have passed up my #3 color choice (white) and waited for another when my dealer called last week saying he got one in.  I was looking at the sticker more from a resale point of view which will be moot if they don't extend it once we reach 2008.   I go to/from work so late anyhow that the HOV sticker doesn't help me most of the time.

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we were talking about this at work the other day and sending these letters to people who already have the stickers is really not that useful. true, some people with the stickers don't know these things, but the people who really need to know this info are people buying priuses and HCH just to get the stickers. the dealers certainly won't bend over backward to let people know all the caveats. the DMV should make all dealers post this notice somewhere.

[IsrAmeriPrius]

Originally posted by pfile@Jan 14 2006, 12:46 PM
the DMV should make all dealers post this notice somewhere.

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That information was and is available on the DMV website, right along the HOV sticker application form link.

Clean Air Vehicle Stickers—High Occupancy Vehicle Lane Usage

The statute itself is quite clear:

(k) This section shall remain in effect only until January 1, 2008, and as of that date is repealed, unless a later enacted statute, that is enacted before January 1, 2008, deletes or extends that date.

Can't anyone take some responsibility for their own actions and take the time to read the rules on their own? Does everything needs to be spoon fed?

[keqmoore]

Makes me re-think putting that awful yellow sticker on my awesome Barcellona red.

[parrot_lady]

whats the point of having one if they're going to tell you possibly can't use them(limiting the hours of hybrid use of the lane)? I think thats unfair-- they should wind up owing you refunds.

[Jim S.]

The rules on this were known A YEAR before they finally got the Federal aproval to implement the program, and were accessible from the same web page where you printed the application.

But since the program's started, it's nothing but complaining-- the sticker is too big, I might not be able to drive in the lane when I want to, the program is going to end.

The program costs $8.50, people. Even if they revoke it tomorrow, if you used that sticker ONCE to get around a stopped freeway, you've earned that money back.

And if the only reason you bought a Prius in the first place was to use the carpool lane, maybe you should have done a little bit more research before committing to a $20K purchase.

Refunds. Feh. Doesn't California have enough financial problems as it is?

[pfile]

Originally posted by IsrAmeriPrius@Jan 14 2006, 04:35 PM

Can't anyone take some responsibility for their own actions and take the time to read the rules on their own?  Does everything needs to be spoon fed?

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okay. right. read ayn rand much? thought so.

the point i was making is that it doesnt do much good to send a reminder about the rules to people who already have the stickers. if the state wants to spend money to publicize the carpool sticker rules, it would do more good to give prospective buyers ammo against dishonest car dealers. unless you live on a different planet than i do, i'm sure we can all agree that 80+% of all car salesmen are scumbags and would do anything to make a sale, including the omission of little details like "but, the program expires in 2008" and "at 50,000 stickers they may reconsider the whole thing"

[IsrAmeriPrius]

Originally posted by pfile@Jan 15 2006, 12:49 AM
i'm sure we can all agree that 80+% of all car salesmen are scumbags and would do anything to make a sale...

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Which is why I do not accept anything any sales person tells me at face value and I take the time to look up and verify all the relevant information I need to know, on my own, before making a decision.