I just don't understand

Begreen · 05-20-2006, 10:57 PM

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How some of you folks are getting 60+mpg. This week I took the longer way to work around Phila. I did not take the surekill expressway at all. Most of my driving was 20-40mph and I still could only manage 50.3mpg. It does however beat the heck out of 15mpg in my Tundra.

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Dude, I'll be real happy when that shows up as my average. GreenHybrid shows Prius II average at 48mpg.

hdrygas · 05-21-2006, 12:06 AM

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How some of you folks are getting 60+mpg. This week I took the longer way to work around Phila. I did not take the surekill expressway at all. Most of my driving was 20-40mph and I still could only manage 50.3mpg. It does however beat the heck out of 15mpg in my Tundra.

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There was a stock Prius driven for 110mpg last summer near Pittsburg. If they can do it you can!! It take practice a good route, low speeds 20-40 mph is good. Look into all the posts on the Pulse and Glide technique. The traffic can be a factor. It has taken me months to hone this technique but it is paying off. You should have good conditions to get 60 in the summer. You will not get 60 in February I would bet! Keep it up and practice! The Energy screen will show you the now flow glide mode well enough. You can add the CAN View if you have an 04-5 and that will help a bit but is not mandatory. Good luck and Good driving.

daniel · 05-21-2006, 09:42 AM

Let' say that pulse and glide, driving 30 mph under your actual driving conditions, can boost your mpg from 50 to 60. If you drive 15,000 miles per year and gas is $3, you save $150 per year.

If you'd otherwise be averaging 40 mph, the pulse and glide technique costs you an extra 125 hours in the car. Is your time only worth $1.20 per hour?

If someone offered you $1.20 per hour to sit on a curb for half an hour a day, would you take it? 60 cents to spend half an hour away from your family or hobby every day, breathing traffic fumes.

Of course, you get to enter the mpg bragging-rights game. Maybe that's worth 125 hours per year of your time.

EricGo · 05-21-2006, 02:13 PM

Daniel, what is your hourly monetary compensation for posting on PriusChat ? If not for money, then I'll have to presume it is for bragging rights.

From multiple experiences, I know that I arrive at a destination quicker than my wife. If AC is off, she gets low 50's in the Prius, I get around 70. High FE driving in the city is not equal to slow driving; it is smart driving.

darelldd · 05-21-2006, 03:47 PM

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The best use of EV is when maintaining constant speed on level or downhill roads. When accelerating it's always better to use the gas engine.
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Hmm. Dang. I guess I'll have to get one of those "gas engines" for the Rav then. That's probably why I'm STILL getting zero miles to the gallon in the EV.

Brian K · 05-22-2006, 01:07 AM

It helps to either not give a rats a$$ about keeping up with traffic, or having the road to yourself. I definitely possess the former in town, and frequently have the second out of town (Maine).

Our best mileage was a 120 mile trip to the coast for some fried clams. On the way there we just drove with everyone else and got in the mid 50s. On the way home I took a route that was out of the way. Nice road, rolling hills and no other cars. The combined mileage for the whole trip was 68.3 mpg on the MFD. Lots of pulse and glide got it there. It took no longer for the return trip, or if it did we were having so much fun driving the car that neither the wife or I noticed any additional time.

Heck, our bad mileage is in the winter and that's still in the upper mid 40 mpg according to the MFD. I nearly forgot, mileage on the interstate is low too, high 40s @ 70 mph with the too aggressive cruise on, better with it off.

Redblue88 · 05-22-2006, 08:46 AM

I live in the area and am familiar with the Expressway and its bypasses. Because of the traffic and hills, P&G will be nearly impossible for any significant stretch of road so you aren't going to do much better than 50-55. Actually, if there's no backup (a rare event to be sure), the Expressway is actually a pretty good MPG road because the hills aren't as bad and traffic doesn't get much above 65. If you're driving the route during rush hour, you're better off just taking the quickest route given the conditions and be happy with getting triple the mileage you used to get. I know I am.

daniel · 05-22-2006, 10:53 AM

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Hmm. Dang. I guess I'll have to get one of those "gas engines" for the Rav then. That's probably why I'm STILL getting zero miles to the gallon in the EV.

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You do know, of course, that I was speaking specifically about use of the EV switch in a Prius. Of course, you have to rub it in that you drive a vehicle that is no longer being manufactured.

grasshopper · 05-22-2006, 11:18 AM

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How some of you folks are getting 60+mpg. This week I took the longer way to work around Phila. I did not take the surekill expressway at all. Most of my driving was 20-40mph and I still could only manage 50.3mpg. It does however beat the heck out of 15mpg in my Tundra.

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I drive the P--s out of mine and the hell with all this other stuff. I have recently been pulling a trailer larger than the car. So at this point my average MPG is at 46.1 and going up because I am no longer paying the penalty of the trailer. Will I get to 50 MPG? Probably not. Do I care? Not really, because I have a car with power that I use as a truck most of the time. It does everything I want it to do, and I get in the high 40’s in MPG. I think that fantastic for what is on the market at present.
Drive it, enjoy it, love it and have fun.

BTW, It’s ok to laugh at the other drivers out there stopping at all the gas stations. Just don’t make it to obvious.

subarutoo · 05-22-2006, 03:54 PM

I've got over 9000 miles since Jan 12, and the most I ever get is 49. My drive is 90% freeway, about 15% of that in the "smug" HOV lane at near 80 mph. My overall is 49.4. That works for me. I don't know how folks break 50 unless they drive like golf carts.

05-21-2006, 09:42 AM	#13
daniel Cat Lovers Against the Bomb Join Date: Feb 2004 Location: Spokane, WA Posts: 9,121 My Car: 2004 Prius Package: #6 Nominated 0 Times in 0 Posts TOTM Awards: 0 Friends: 0	Let' say that pulse and glide, driving 30 mph under your actual driving conditions, can boost your mpg from 50 to 60. If you drive 15,000 miles per year and gas is $3, you save $150 per year. If you'd otherwise be averaging 40 mph, the pulse and glide technique costs you an extra 125 hours in the car. Is your time only worth $1.20 per hour? If someone offered you $1.20 per hour to sit on a curb for half an hour a day, would you take it? 60 cents to spend half an hour away from your family or hobby every day, breathing traffic fumes. Of course, you get to enter the mpg bragging-rights game. Maybe that's worth 125 hours per year of your time. __________________ Daniel ---------------------- Primary car: Zap Xebra SD: 100% electric car. 1.9 cents per mile, using electrons generated from water power. (The Prius is my gas guzzler, used when I have to travel farther than 35 miles in a day.) "If voting changed anything, they'd make it illegal." -- Emma Goldman "Anyone who has ever looked into the glazed eyes of a soldier dying on the battlefield will think long and hard before starting a war." -- Otto von Bismarck

05-22-2006, 08:46 AM	#17
Redblue88 Join Date: Apr 2006 Posts: 32 My Car: Package: Nominated 0 Times in 0 Posts TOTM Awards: 0 Friends: 0	I live in the area and am familiar with the Expressway and its bypasses. Because of the traffic and hills, P&G will be nearly impossible for any significant stretch of road so you aren't going to do much better than 50-55. Actually, if there's no backup (a rare event to be sure), the Expressway is actually a pretty good MPG road because the hills aren't as bad and traffic doesn't get much above 65. If you're driving the route during rush hour, you're better off just taking the quickest route given the conditions and be happy with getting triple the mileage you used to get. I know I am. __________________

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05-21-2006, 02:13 PM	#14
EricGo Three cats, one Prius, and assorted humans Join Date: Apr 2005 Location: Albuquerque, NM (SouthWest US) Posts: 1,810 My Car: Package: Nominated 0 Times in 0 Posts TOTM Awards: 0 Friends: 0	Daniel, what is your hourly monetary compensation for posting on PriusChat ? If not for money, then I'll have to presume it is for bragging rights. From multiple experiences, I know that I arrive at a destination quicker than my wife. If AC is off, she gets low 50's in the Prius, I get around 70. High FE driving in the city is not equal to slow driving; it is smart driving.

05-22-2006, 01:07 AM	#16
Brian K Join Date: Apr 2005 Posts: 152 My Car: Package: Nominated 0 Times in 0 Posts TOTM Awards: 0 Friends: 0	It helps to either not give a rats a$$ about keeping up with traffic, or having the road to yourself. I definitely possess the former in town, and frequently have the second out of town (Maine). Our best mileage was a 120 mile trip to the coast for some fried clams. On the way there we just drove with everyone else and got in the mid 50s. On the way home I took a route that was out of the way. Nice road, rolling hills and no other cars. The combined mileage for the whole trip was 68.3 mpg on the MFD. Lots of pulse and glide got it there. It took no longer for the return trip, or if it did we were having so much fun driving the car that neither the wife or I noticed any additional time. Heck, our bad mileage is in the winter and that's still in the upper mid 40 mpg according to the MFD. I nearly forgot, mileage on the interstate is low too, high 40s @ 70 mph with the too aggressive cruise on, better with it off.

05-22-2006, 03:54 PM	#20
subarutoo Senior Member Join Date: Jan 2006 Location: Chatsworth, CA Posts: 1,061 My Car: 2006 Prius Package: #6 Nominated 0 Times in 0 Posts TOTM Awards: 0 Friends: 0	I've got over 9000 miles since Jan 12, and the most I ever get is 49. My drive is 90% freeway, about 15% of that in the "smug" HOV lane at near 80 mph. My overall is 49.4. That works for me. I don't know how folks break 50 unless they drive like golf carts.