PriusChat Forums  

 
Spy
Go Back   PriusChat > Toyota Prius Forums > Prius Main Forum

Prius Main Forum This is a discussion on Lifetime MPG within the Prius Main Forum forums, part of the Toyota Prius Forums category; Hey. Just picked up my magnetic gray '06 Prius #5 today. I love it, beautiful car. I haven't read through ...


Reply
 
LinkBack Thread Tools
Old 06-17-2006, 10:05 PM   #1
kevin.will40
 
Join Date: Jun 2006
Posts: 11
My Car:
Package:
Nominated 0 Times in 0 Posts
TOTM Awards: 0
Friends: 0
Default

Hey. Just picked up my magnetic gray '06 Prius #5 today. I love it, beautiful car. I haven't read through the entire manual yet, but i am having trouble finding the lifetime MPG. I only can get to the trip info, can anyone point me in the right direction? Thanks!
kevin.will40 is offline  
Digg this Post!Add Post to del.icio.usBookmark Post in TechnoratiFurl this Post!
Reply With Quote
Sponsored Links
Old 06-17-2006, 11:06 PM   #2
john1701a
Senior Member
 
john1701a's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jan 2004
Location: Minnesota
Posts: 2,683
My Car: 2004 Prius
Package: Pioneer #3
Nominated 0 Times in 0 Posts
TOTM Awards: 0
Friends: 3
Default

Lifetime MPG is an interesting topic. It becomes basically uninformative after about 10,000 miles of data. Rounding goes from being annoying to an actual inaccuracy...

In other words, there isn't one. On-Paper is the only true recording method.
john1701a is offline  
Digg this Post!Add Post to del.icio.usBookmark Post in TechnoratiFurl this Post!
Reply With Quote
Old 06-17-2006, 11:56 PM   #3
Jack Straw
Senior Member
 
Join Date: May 2004
Posts: 137
My Car:
Package:
Nominated 0 Times in 0 Posts
TOTM Awards: 0
Friends: 0
Default

zzz
Jack Straw is offline  
Digg this Post!Add Post to del.icio.usBookmark Post in TechnoratiFurl this Post!
Reply With Quote
Old 06-18-2006, 10:26 AM   #4
Tadashi
Senior Member
 
Tadashi's Avatar
 
Join Date: Feb 2005
Location: Fort Hood, TX
Posts: 794
My Car:
Package:
Nominated 0 Times in 0 Posts
TOTM Awards: 0
Send a message via ICQ to Tadashi Send a message via AIM to Tadashi Send a message via MSN to Tadashi Send a message via Yahoo to Tadashi
Friends: 0
Default

Here is the speadsheet I used. It was made for tracking or two Prius. It tracks lifetime MPG, but I also seemed to notice what John talks about after 10k miles so I also have it track the monthly and yearly MPG. It is a compilation of many people's logs here sorry do not remember who. If you can think of any improvements please post it.
Tadashi is offline  
Digg this Post!Add Post to del.icio.usBookmark Post in TechnoratiFurl this Post!
Reply With Quote
Old 06-18-2006, 10:41 AM   #5
john1701a
Senior Member
 
john1701a's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jan 2004
Location: Minnesota
Posts: 2,683
My Car: 2004 Prius
Package: Pioneer #3
Nominated 0 Times in 0 Posts
TOTM Awards: 0
Friends: 3
Default

Starting with the beginning of year #2 for me, here's my Lifetime MPG calculated at each fill up:

49.4, 49.4, 49.5, 49.4, 49.4, 49.3, 49.2, 49.1, 49.1, 49.0, 48.9, 48.8, 48.7, 48.6, 48.6, 48.6, 48.5, 48.4, 48.4, 48.4, 48.3, 48.4, 48.4, 48.4, 48.4, 48.4, 48.4, 48.4, 48.4, 48.4, 48.4, 48.5, 48.6, 48.6, 48.7, 48.8, 48.8, 48.9, 48.9, 48.9, 49.0, 49.0, 49.0, 49.2, 49.2, 49.2, 49.2, 49.2, 49.2, 49.3, 49.3, 49.3, 49.3, 49.3, 49.2, 49.1, 49.1, 49.0, 49.0, 49.0, 48.9, 48.9, 48.9, 48.8, 48.8, 48.7, 48.7, 48.7, 48.6, 48.6, 48.6, 48.6, 48.6, 48.5, 48.5, 48.5, 48.5, 48.5, 48.5, 48.5, 48.5, 48.5, 48.5, 48.5

Notice how the range is limited to a only 1.2 MPG. With a flucuation so small, taking a month or more to change just one-tenth, seeing it would be rather boring.

Then when you realize that the margin-of-error between display and calculated is actually 1.3 MPG, the value of seeing it basically becomes worthless.
__________________
JOHN
http://john1701a.com
48.0 MPG average @ 108,221 miles
john1701a is offline  
Digg this Post!Add Post to del.icio.usBookmark Post in TechnoratiFurl this Post!
Reply With Quote
Old 06-18-2006, 12:56 PM   #6
Tadashi
Senior Member
 
Tadashi's Avatar
 
Join Date: Feb 2005
Location: Fort Hood, TX
Posts: 794
My Car:
Package:
Nominated 0 Times in 0 Posts
TOTM Awards: 0
Send a message via ICQ to Tadashi Send a message via AIM to Tadashi Send a message via MSN to Tadashi Send a message via Yahoo to Tadashi
Friends: 0
Default

wow, mine and my wife's are all over the place, ranging from 45 to 65. I tend to do a lot of road trips and her MPG varies with required errands. The nice thing about tracking your MPG is that if you notice a sudden drop with no explained change in style, terrain, etc then you can check your car out. For me that meant check tire pressure. On my old car it meant tune up or maybe something else was wrong.
Tadashi is offline  
Digg this Post!Add Post to del.icio.usBookmark Post in TechnoratiFurl this Post!
Reply With Quote
Old 06-18-2006, 07:50 PM   #7
john1701a
Senior Member
 
john1701a's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jan 2004
Location: Minnesota
Posts: 2,683
My Car: 2004 Prius
Package: Pioneer #3
Nominated 0 Times in 0 Posts
TOTM Awards: 0
Friends: 3
Default

<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE(Tadashi @ Jun 18 2006, 11:56 AM) [snapback]273083[/snapback]</div>
Quote:
wow, mine and my wife's are all over the place, ranging from 45 to 65. I tend to do a lot of road trips and her MPG varies with required errands.[/b]
My per-tank values vary from 40 to 55 throughout the year, but not lifetime.

Once you collect enough data, you'll see a stablized lifetime value too... even with the extreme conditions of winter and carrying bikes on the outside while flying down the highway with the A/C on.

john1701a is offline  
Digg this Post!Add Post to del.icio.usBookmark Post in TechnoratiFurl this Post!
Reply With Quote
Old 06-18-2006, 08:03 PM   #8
etkal
Member
 
etkal's Avatar
 
Join Date: Apr 2006
Posts: 52
My Car:
Package:
Nominated 0 Times in 0 Posts
TOTM Awards: 0
Friends: 0
Default

<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE(john1701a @ Jun 18 2006, 07:50 PM) [snapback]273206[/snapback]</div>
Quote:
My per-tank values vary from 40 to 55 throughout the year, but not lifetime.

Once you collect enough data, you'll see a stablized lifetime value too... even with the extreme conditions of winter and carrying bikes on the outside while flying down the highway with the A/C on.
[/b]
I've started a spreadsheet (based on ones I've used on previous vehicles), and I've gotten (as of filling up this evening) 51.06 mpg since 1 April 2006. The most accurate cumulative (lifetime) calculation is to divide the total miles you've driven with the number of gallons you've put in. Period. I also ignored the first tankful since I didn't know if it was full. If you have intermediate tanks that you suspect are not ful, note it in your log, but the overall average will still be accurate since you will compensate by putting more gas in the next time. Ignore the MFD for lifetime calculations, though it is useful for trips and single tanks.
__________________
.
Erik Tkal
2006 Classic Silver Metallic #7
.
etkal is offline  
Digg this Post!Add Post to del.icio.usBookmark Post in TechnoratiFurl this Post!
Reply With Quote
Old 06-19-2006, 09:12 AM   #9
kevin.will40
 
Join Date: Jun 2006
Posts: 11
My Car:
Package:
Nominated 0 Times in 0 Posts
TOTM Awards: 0
Friends: 0
Default

Thanks for all the tips and nice spreadsheets! It'll be cool to track this.
kevin.will40 is offline  
Digg this Post!Add Post to del.icio.usBookmark Post in TechnoratiFurl this Post!
Reply With Quote
Old 08-12-2006, 08:50 PM   #10
Tadashi
Senior Member
 
Tadashi's Avatar
 
Join Date: Feb 2005
Location: Fort Hood, TX
Posts: 794
My Car:
Package:
Nominated 0 Times in 0 Posts
TOTM Awards: 0
Send a message via ICQ to Tadashi Send a message via AIM to Tadashi Send a message via MSN to Tadashi Send a message via Yahoo to Tadashi
Friends: 0
Default

I fixed and added some stuff to the speadsheet I posted before. I noticed the lifetime fuel track was not working in the graph. Not that it matters much since it does not move much like John pointed out. I added a CO2 meter also. Basically, it calculates the amount of CO2 (19.56 lbs per gal of unleaded) you produce and you can enter the amount you saved based on your old car's fuel economy.

Erik, the sheet will calculate your MPG for the lifetime, year, and month. Also, it takes into account the first tank. When I got my Prius I only had about 7/10 of a tank but was too lazy to go back to the dealer. It would have been only about $5 of gas.

8/23/2006 - I have changed the expense tracker to allow the summary to show the latest service as well as be able to track expenses by catergory. I also added an emmisions summary page that includes the other pollutants (CO2, CO, NO, Soot, and Hydrocarbons).

8/25/2006 - I added the CY07-CY12 to the sheet. You can swap the Salsa or Driftwood names with whatever you use to differentiate your two vehicles.

9/29/2006 - I added a monthly mileage pages. I was just curious if I drove more in certain months. Also, added the yearly MPG to the gas calc page (I was curious as to not only how my lifetime change dwith the last fillup but if I affected that year's MPG). I have noticed I am getting better MPG the second year (either by better driving or engine breaking in). Also minor link fixed and formula corrections.

Since the uploads are broken - http://tadashi.priuschat.com/fuel_economy.zip
__________________
Two Prii Family - '05 Salsa Red BC#6 (Mine) and '05 Driftwood BC#6 (Wife's)
Best Tank: 89.398 MPG (372 mi) - all city
Worst Tank: 29.5 MPG (131 mi) - one flat tire
Current Year: 56.826 MPG
Best Yr: 58.242 MPG (2006), Worst Yr: 51.237 MPG (2005)
Lifetime Avg: 54.911 MPG (31799 mi)
Savings based on mid-size Avg since 2/05: $3,447.50 ($7,101.94 for both Prius)
Dual Prius MPG, Expense, ROI, and Emissions tracker (updated 8/19/9/07)
Single Prius MPG, Expense, ROI, and Emissions tracker (updated 9/15/2007)

Solar Panel Stats: Overview Power Yield
Tadashi is offline  
Digg this Post!Add Post to del.icio.usBookmark Post in TechnoratiFurl this Post!
Reply With Quote
Reply

Bookmarks

Thread Tools

Posting Rules
You may not post new threads
You may not post replies
You may not post attachments
You may not edit your posts

BB code is On
Smilies are On
[IMG] code is On
HTML code is Off
Trackbacks are On
Pingbacks are On
Refbacks are On
Forum Jump

Similar Threads
Thread Thread Starter Forum Replies Last Post
Lifetime MPG tmgrl3 Fuel Economy 9 08-10-2006 09:14 PM
Lifetime mpg RallyDen Fuel Economy 5 07-29-2006 11:49 PM
Lifetime MPG VaPrius Fuel Economy 8 11-13-2005 09:55 PM
Lifetime MPG? majordude Prius Main Forum 10 05-26-2005 06:56 AM
Lifetime MPG speedy Prius Main Forum 4 05-05-2005 04:04 PM


All times are GMT -5. The time now is 01:08 PM.


Find us on Facebook!
Powered by vBulletin®
Copyright ©2000 - 2008, Jelsoft Enterprises Ltd.
Content Relevant URLs by vBSEO 3.2.0