Nail in Rear Tire

jnkapil · 06-26-2006, 08:51 PM

Hi,

I bought Toyota Prius in Jan '06. Today(06/26/06), I went for its first service(5328 miles). After the service, I was told by the service guy at toyota dealership that rear right tire has a nail and its non-patchable.

Has anybody else faced similar situation. Could you please guide me as to what is the best way out. Does tire warranty takes care of it?

tia,
Kapil
Silver Prius '06
Package #3

johnnieliu · 06-26-2006, 09:46 PM

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Hi,

I bought Toyota Prius in Jan '06. Today(06/26/06), I went for its first service(5328 miles). After the service, I was told by the service guy at toyota dealership that rear right tire has a nail and its non-patchable.

Has anybody else faced similar situation. Could you please guide me as to what is the best way out. Does tire warranty takes care of it?

tia,
Kapil
Silver Prius '06
Package #3
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I had a BOLT(5/8" dia, 2.5" long) in my driver side rear tire about 2 weeks after I took delivery of my '06 Prius. The Firestone dealer that I took the car to was skeptical whether they could plug/patch the tire due to the dia size of the bolt. They had a big enough plug, and the worked the plug/patch. So, if you have anything smaller than what was stuck in my tire, it CERTAINLY can be patched/plugged. 5K miles later, I have yet to put air in my 42PSI inlated drivers side rear tire. Warranty didn't cover it, but the repair cost < $20.

JL

jnkapil · 06-26-2006, 10:10 PM

Thanks John.

I would take my car to some Car shop to get a second opinion whether the tire could be patched. Btw, while searching for new tire, I found that Goodyear Integrity is available at Sams' club for $63.

Kapil

galaxee · 06-26-2006, 11:00 PM

does the 06 have the road hazard warranty? check your paperwork, you could be reimbursed for replacement if they're still doing that.

johnnieliu · 06-27-2006, 12:24 AM

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does the 06 have the road hazard warranty? check your paperwork, you could be reimbursed for replacement if they're still doing that.
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It's my understanding that in roadside/road hazard isn't included on the '06 models.

JL

JimboK · 06-27-2006, 08:43 AM

I was in the tire business in the early 80s. At the time, it seemed to be pretty standard industry practice not to try to repair a tire with a hole anywhere from the edge of the tread to the bead. The thought process was that because of the constant flexing of the sidewall, a patch or plug wouldn't hold. Holes in the flat part of the tread, no problem. We also never used plugs, even for holes in the tread; we always patched them from the inside. Sorry, I can't remember now why, other than we thought it was a better way to fix them.

Admittedly things have changed a lot since then, so I have no idea what the current industry standard might be. Flexing sidewalls certainly haven't changed, but tire repair technology may have changed a lot.

I agree with getting a second opinion. But I'd make it a reputable tire store, not just any auto repair shop. Not to slight the latter, but I want the decision whether it's fixable and the repair itself done by those that do it every day. You might pay a little more, but the peace of mind is worth it.

Jim

Catskillguy · 06-27-2006, 09:02 AM

That would be the thing, find out where the nail is and WHY it is not repairable.

I had some similar sized bolt that johnnieliu had. The guy at the service station said it was too big to plug, but they could probably fix and patch it from the inside. It was more 4 because he had to dismount and remount the tire.

It was fixed and 7000 miles later, no air leak, no problems.

BUT, from a flat on another car a couple of years ago, edge of tread out, not safe to repair. With only 5k miles, one new tire shouldn't present a problem with handling... 15k on these tires, you might be loooking at a new set

tnthub · 06-27-2006, 09:07 AM

Small holes in the tread area may often be patched by a plug, or an inside patch, or sometimes both. Gashes or holes in the sidewall should not be patched. Additionally, tires with a plug or patch should be rotated to the rear where there is less weight and less weight transfer in a normal car. Also, should the patch or plug fail, it is easier to control the car if the blowout in on a rear tire.

biff_debris · 06-27-2006, 01:45 PM

We had a new roof put on the house last year and, although the guys did a great clean-up job, they seem to have missed one nail, which I found. Well, actually I never found the nail but, one day while I was at work, I got a phone call from the receptionist asking if I drove the white Prius. Someone coming through the parking lot noticed that it had a flat tire and told her about it.

I went out to look at it, and it was pretty clear that I had driven some distance on the flat. So, I jacked it up, put on the spare and went to a local tire store (Les Schwab). They repaired it for free even though I hadn't purchased the tire there (they like to build good will among potential future customers!) The tire has been fine for almost 9 months now.

The most amazing thing to me is that I didn't even notice the flat while driving! When I got home, I looked at the tire tracks in the driveway and I'm pretty sure that the tire must have been flat when I left for work that morning. I have a 20 mile commute over hilly, curvy 2-lane black top and only noticed a kind of odd instability around one or two curves, almost like I had hit some ice.

Anyway, try a local or regional tire shop or even a gas station that still has some service. They may be able to fix it for little or nothing.

johnnieliu · 06-28-2006, 11:28 AM

Good points! The bolt that got stuck on my Prius' tire was in the flat part of the tire.

A few years ago I bought some new tires as Costco. the next day I found a metal "sliver" that penetrated the sidewall, that was unrepairable. Went back to Costco and they gave me a new tire.

So, depending on where the nail/bolt penetrated, the tire might not be repairable.

06-27-2006, 08:43 AM	#6
JimboK One owner, low mileage Join Date: May 2006 Location: Chesterfield, VA Posts: 1,884 My Car: 2005 Prius Package: #2 Nominated 0 Times in 0 Posts TOTM Awards: 0 Friends: 2	I was in the tire business in the early 80s. At the time, it seemed to be pretty standard industry practice not to try to repair a tire with a hole anywhere from the edge of the tread to the bead. The thought process was that because of the constant flexing of the sidewall, a patch or plug wouldn't hold. Holes in the flat part of the tread, no problem. We also never used plugs, even for holes in the tread; we always patched them from the inside. Sorry, I can't remember now why, other than we thought it was a better way to fix them. Admittedly things have changed a lot since then, so I have no idea what the current industry standard might be. Flexing sidewalls certainly haven't changed, but tire repair technology may have changed a lot. I agree with getting a second opinion. But I'd make it a reputable tire store, not just any auto repair shop. Not to slight the latter, but I want the decision whether it's fixable and the repair itself done by those that do it every day. You might pay a little more, but the peace of mind is worth it. Jim __________________ Jim Lifetime fuel mileage: After learning how to hypermile: Click here for car details.

06-27-2006, 09:02 AM	#7
Catskillguy Join Date: Oct 2005 Location: Mid Hudson Valley NY Posts: 536 My Car: Package: Nominated 0 Times in 0 Posts TOTM Awards: 0 Friends: 0	That would be the thing, find out where the nail is and WHY it is not repairable. I had some similar sized bolt that johnnieliu had. The guy at the service station said it was too big to plug, but they could probably fix and patch it from the inside. It was more 4 because he had to dismount and remount the tire. It was fixed and 7000 miles later, no air leak, no problems. BUT, from a flat on another car a couple of years ago, edge of tread out, not safe to repair. With only 5k miles, one new tire shouldn't present a problem with handling... 15k on these tires, you might be loooking at a new set __________________ BT Chassis Stiffening Plate, Mud Flaps, Rear Bumper Rubber Protector OEM, WeatherTech Floor & Cargo Rubber Mats, ExactFit Seatcovers Seaside Pearl '06, Base Prius and Proud of it!

06-27-2006, 01:45 PM	#9
biff_debris WOOF! Join Date: May 2005 Location: Prescott, WA Posts: 58 My Car: 2005 Prius Package: #9 Nominated 0 Times in 0 Posts TOTM Awards: 0 Friends: 0	We had a new roof put on the house last year and, although the guys did a great clean-up job, they seem to have missed one nail, which I found. Well, actually I never found the nail but, one day while I was at work, I got a phone call from the receptionist asking if I drove the white Prius. Someone coming through the parking lot noticed that it had a flat tire and told her about it. I went out to look at it, and it was pretty clear that I had driven some distance on the flat. So, I jacked it up, put on the spare and went to a local tire store (Les Schwab). They repaired it for free even though I hadn't purchased the tire there (they like to build good will among potential future customers!) The tire has been fine for almost 9 months now. The most amazing thing to me is that I didn't even notice the flat while driving! When I got home, I looked at the tire tracks in the driveway and I'm pretty sure that the tire must have been flat when I left for work that morning. I have a 20 mile commute over hilly, curvy 2-lane black top and only noticed a kind of odd instability around one or two curves, almost like I had hit some ice. Anyway, try a local or regional tire shop or even a gas station that still has some service. They may be able to fix it for little or nothing. __________________ Herb: White 2005 Pkg 6 delivered Oct 1, 2004 Etta: Silver 2005 Pkg 4 delivered May 7, 2005

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06-26-2006, 08:51 PM	#1
jnkapil Join Date: Jun 2006 Posts: 2 My Car: Package: Nominated 0 Times in 0 Posts TOTM Awards: 0 Friends: 0	Hi, I bought Toyota Prius in Jan '06. Today(06/26/06), I went for its first service(5328 miles). After the service, I was told by the service guy at toyota dealership that rear right tire has a nail and its non-patchable. Has anybody else faced similar situation. Could you please guide me as to what is the best way out. Does tire warranty takes care of it? tia, Kapil Silver Prius '06 Package #3

06-26-2006, 10:10 PM	#3
jnkapil Join Date: Jun 2006 Posts: 2 My Car: Package: Nominated 0 Times in 0 Posts TOTM Awards: 0 Friends: 0	Thanks John. I would take my car to some Car shop to get a second opinion whether the tire could be patched. Btw, while searching for new tire, I found that Goodyear Integrity is available at Sams' club for $63. Kapil

06-26-2006, 11:00 PM	#4
galaxee uphill battling Join Date: Mar 2005 Location: central NC/ western WI Posts: 8,808 My Car: 2005 Prius Package: #5 Nominated 5 Times in 3 Posts TOTM Awards: 0 Friends: 19	does the 06 have the road hazard warranty? check your paperwork, you could be reimbursed for replacement if they're still doing that.

06-27-2006, 09:07 AM	#8
tnthub Senior Member Join Date: Jun 2006 Posts: 462 My Car: Package: Nominated 0 Times in 0 Posts TOTM Awards: 0 Friends: 0	Small holes in the tread area may often be patched by a plug, or an inside patch, or sometimes both. Gashes or holes in the sidewall should not be patched. Additionally, tires with a plug or patch should be rotated to the rear where there is less weight and less weight transfer in a normal car. Also, should the patch or plug fail, it is easier to control the car if the blowout in on a rear tire.

06-28-2006, 11:28 AM	#10
johnnieliu Join Date: Sep 2005 Location: PNW Posts: 60 My Car: Package: Nominated 0 Times in 0 Posts TOTM Awards: 0 Friends: 0	Good points! The bolt that got stuck on my Prius' tire was in the flat part of the tire. A few years ago I bought some new tires as Costco. the next day I found a metal "sliver" that penetrated the sidewall, that was unrepairable. Went back to Costco and they gave me a new tire. So, depending on where the nail/bolt penetrated, the tire might not be repairable.