EMERGENCY RESPONSE & HYBRID INFORMATION

rufaro · 08-02-2006, 01:52 AM

This site is mostly paid subscription only, but there is a link on the page that goes to the following: "Toyota/Lexus developed Emergency Response Guides (ERG's) to educate and assist emergency responders in the safe handling of Toyota/Lexus Alternate Fueled Vehicles that incorporate CNG Gas, Hydrogen Gas, or High Voltage electrical systems."

You get to the appropriate page by clicking on EMERGENCY RESPONSE & HYBRID INFORMATION on the page linked to above, under the category of "Valuable resources." I have attached the pdf for the Gen II Priis. [attachmentid=4310] There are pdfs for 7 Toyota models and 2 Lexus, in addition to links to dismantling guides.

Most everything else on the site costs $ access. The Prius King and Guru where I bought my Pri (he has been working on Prii since 2001, and he is Swiss, and has a VERY cute accent) is who told me about where to find this...He, apparently, spends lots of his own free time meeting w/ "first responders."

Anyway...looked like a good resource to me and hope others find it so as well.

Was this the right place to post this?

daronspicher · 08-02-2006, 08:20 AM

Thanks...

So, I print this out, and when I'm in a big pileup, I hold this doc out the window as my body goes into shock while waiting for the EMT's to show up. Not a bad plan..

Somehow, I was hoping for them to already know how to handle the hybrid, but I bet it's no where near 100% in August 2006.

Maybe August 2010 this will be common training for EMT's.

**TonyPSchaefer** · 08-02-2006, 09:02 AM

Thanks for the post, Rufaro. I keep a copy of the emergency response document in my glovebox.

I picture myself hanging upside down by my seatbelt with the EMTs standing outside. I'll be handing them this guide through the window.

Skwyre7 · 08-02-2006, 10:13 AM

Why bother handing the guide out of the window? I'm going to laminate mine and tape it to the outside of the car. That way the EMT's will have something to read while they wait for me to crawl out on my own.

rufaro · 08-03-2006, 01:49 AM

Just trying to help.

Maybe. Just maybe. Print 'em out and HAND THEM to first responders in your communities. Before either they or you or ANYONE needs them.

Oh.

I forgot.

Education is a BAD thing.

Stupid Rufaro.

Daron...don't worry about letting 'em know. For anyone.
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Thanks...

So, I print this out, and when I'm in a big pileup, I hold this doc out the window as my body goes into shock while waiting for the EMT's to show up. Not a bad plan..

Somehow, I was hoping for them to already know how to handle the hybrid, but I bet it's no where near 100% in August 2006.

Maybe August 2010 this will be common training for EMT's.
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Nope. Just go on as you are. Remember, Darwin loves you.

EDIT...Only 34 people have thought this might be worthwhile so far...12:05pm pdt August 3.

Mi3ke · 08-03-2006, 06:20 PM

I am in the news business and meet with the PIO of the local fire department on a regular basis. After we got our Prius, I printed up a first responders guide and gave it to her to pass along to the training academy. I hope they never need it, but at least they'll have it.

Cheers, Mi3ke

rufaro · 08-03-2006, 07:33 PM

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I am in the news business and meet with the PIO of the local fire department on a regular basis. After we got our Prius, I printed up a first responders guide and gave it to her to pass along to the training academy. I hope they never need it, but at least they'll have it.

Cheers, Mi3ke
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Pretty much my original point.

And thank you for your efforts in your community.

auricchio · 08-03-2006, 10:20 PM

Fire departments already have this information, because most cars have air bags, explosive seat-belt tensioners, and other "booby traps" that can injure or kill rescuers.

Since they constantly update their onboard rescue information, I'm not going to bother downloading a copy.

rufaro · 08-03-2006, 10:50 PM

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Fire departments already have this information, because most cars have air bags, explosive seat-belt tensioners, and other "booby traps" that can injure or kill rescuers.

Since they constantly update their onboard rescue information, I'm not going to bother downloading a copy.
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Apparently not ALL of them DO have it, according to the Prius Guru at Freeman Toyota in Santa Rosa, who spends much of his OWN time going to smaller towns that might, somehow, have missed it. He prefers to KNOW they have it than simply ASSUME they do. I pretty much feel that way as well. If even ONE of the, so far, 53 people who have downloaded it gives it to any first responder and even one rescuer or victim is saved some pain through that, it's a pretty small price to pay, seems to me. Nobody said you have to download it. Or share your opinion about those of us who think it MIGHT be valuable to SOMEONE. Thanks for your input.

rufaro · 08-04-2006, 02:43 PM

And, just for the record, I really did not expect the apparent level of hostility for my providing this information. It is NOT ALWAYS trained personnel who are first on the scene of an accident. AND not all VOLUNTEER fire depts. have 100% really fully trained personnel. AND sometimes, some community departments give training courses. Personally, I am gonna hand a copy of this document to as many community agencies as I can think of, and, while hoping I never need to worry about it for myself--maybe some good samaritan will NOT be scared off because they DO NOT KNOW THEY WILL NOT GET ELECTROCUTED BY APPROACHING A DAMAGED HYBRID.

But hey, you all wanna flame me? Go for it. At least maybe I'll save just one person from dying from their injuries because people were too afraid of the CAR.

08-02-2006, 01:52 AM	#1
rufaro WeePoo with WeePri Join Date: May 2006 Location: In a (Lo)California state of mind... Posts: 2,640 My Car: 2006 Prius Package: #3 Nominated 0 Times in 0 Posts TOTM Awards: 0 Friends: 36	This site is mostly paid subscription only, but there is a link on the page that goes to the following: "Toyota/Lexus developed Emergency Response Guides (ERG's) to educate and assist emergency responders in the safe handling of Toyota/Lexus Alternate Fueled Vehicles that incorporate CNG Gas, Hydrogen Gas, or High Voltage electrical systems." You get to the appropriate page by clicking on EMERGENCY RESPONSE & HYBRID INFORMATION on the page linked to above, under the category of "Valuable resources." I have attached the pdf for the Gen II Priis. [attachmentid=4310] There are pdfs for 7 Toyota models and 2 Lexus, in addition to links to dismantling guides. Most everything else on the site costs $ access. The Prius King and Guru where I bought my Pri (he has been working on Prii since 2001, and he is Swiss, and has a VERY cute accent) is who told me about where to find this...He, apparently, spends lots of his own free time meeting w/ "first responders." Anyway...looked like a good resource to me and hope others find it so as well. Was this the right place to post this? __________________ AKA WeePriQueen & Member of Hot Chicks in Black Prii club.

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08-02-2006, 08:20 AM	#2
daronspicher Join Date: Sep 2005 Posts: 1,205 My Car: Package: Nominated 0 Times in 0 Posts TOTM Awards: 0 Friends: 0	Thanks... So, I print this out, and when I'm in a big pileup, I hold this doc out the window as my body goes into shock while waiting for the EMT's to show up. Not a bad plan.. Somehow, I was hoping for them to already know how to handle the hybrid, but I bet it's no where near 100% in August 2006. Maybe August 2010 this will be common training for EMT's.

08-02-2006, 09:02 AM	#3
TonyPSchaefer Ruler of Omicron Persei 8 Join Date: May 2004 Location: Far-North Chicagoland Posts: 8,439 My Car: 2004 Prius Package: #9 Nominated 4 Times in 2 Posts TOTM Awards: 0 Friends: 16	Thanks for the post, Rufaro. I keep a copy of the emergency response document in my glovebox. I picture myself hanging upside down by my seatbelt with the EMTs standing outside. I'll be handing them this guide through the window.

08-02-2006, 10:13 AM	#4
Skwyre7 What's the catch? Join Date: Apr 2006 Location: Richmond, VA Posts: 2,302 My Car: 2005 Prius Package: #4 Nominated 0 Times in 0 Posts TOTM Awards: 0 Friends: 1	Why bother handing the guide out of the window? I'm going to laminate mine and tape it to the outside of the car. That way the EMT's will have something to read while they wait for me to crawl out on my own.

08-03-2006, 06:20 PM	#6
Mi3ke Junior Member Join Date: Mar 2005 Posts: 17 My Car: Package: Nominated 0 Times in 0 Posts TOTM Awards: 0 Friends: 0	I am in the news business and meet with the PIO of the local fire department on a regular basis. After we got our Prius, I printed up a first responders guide and gave it to her to pass along to the training academy. I hope they never need it, but at least they'll have it. Cheers, Mi3ke

08-03-2006, 10:20 PM	#8
auricchio Senior Member Join Date: Mar 2006 Location: Cambria, CA, USA Posts: 855 My Car: 2006 Prius Package: #8 Nominated 0 Times in 0 Posts TOTM Awards: 0 Friends: 0	Fire departments already have this information, because most cars have air bags, explosive seat-belt tensioners, and other "booby traps" that can injure or kill rescuers. Since they constantly update their onboard rescue information, I'm not going to bother downloading a copy.

08-04-2006, 02:43 PM	#10
rufaro WeePoo with WeePri Join Date: May 2006 Location: In a (Lo)California state of mind... Posts: 2,640 My Car: 2006 Prius Package: #3 Nominated 0 Times in 0 Posts TOTM Awards: 0 Friends: 36	And, just for the record, I really did not expect the apparent level of hostility for my providing this information. It is NOT ALWAYS trained personnel who are first on the scene of an accident. AND not all VOLUNTEER fire depts. have 100% really fully trained personnel. AND sometimes, some community departments give training courses. Personally, I am gonna hand a copy of this document to as many community agencies as I can think of, and, while hoping I never need to worry about it for myself--maybe some good samaritan will NOT be scared off because they DO NOT KNOW THEY WILL NOT GET ELECTROCUTED BY APPROACHING A DAMAGED HYBRID. But hey, you all wanna flame me? Go for it. At least maybe I'll save just one person from dying from their injuries because people were too afraid of the CAR.