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| Senior Member Join Date: Jan 2006 Location: Seattle
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My Car: 2007 Prius Package: #6 Touring Nominated 0 Times in 0 Posts TOTM Awards: 0 Friends: 0 | My 4-wheel computer gets good mileage "My new car reportedly has 40 computers. Regardless of the number, it's the first car where, just to start up or shut down, I've needed instructions repeated more than once..." |
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| Senior Member Join Date: Jan 2004 Location: Minnesota
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My Car: 2004 Prius Package: Pioneer #3 Nominated 0 Times in 0 Posts TOTM Awards: 0 Friends: 3 | Wow! What a collection of misinformation...
Of course, the "its small size" comment makes you wonder if the writer has lost perspective entirely. If Prius is small, what heck is a 2-door Yaris? |
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| Proud member of the "Lunatic Fringe" Join Date: Oct 2004 Location: Manhattan, KS
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My Car: 2005 Prius Package: #6 Nominated 0 Times in 0 Posts TOTM Awards: 0 Friends: 0 | Linda Knapp reminds me of some of the folks I used to work with in the school system (and she's a former teacher, so I guess it fits): They're an expert on technology and love anything technological, except they don't know the first thing about it. Intuition is not their strong suit. They are easily frustrated by small things and don't bother to figure them out logically. Instead, they decide to become a muse for the Seattle Times and complain because they can't figure out simple things that a large majority of others have easily figured out on their own. RTFM, Linda. Quote:
__________________ Brandon 2005 Driftwood Pearl Prius, BC (Package #6), Delivered 10/21/2004 | |
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| Senior Member Join Date: Jul 2006
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My Car: Package: Nominated 0 Times in 0 Posts TOTM Awards: 0 Friends: 0 | I'm dumbfounded by the incredible amount of bad info regarding this vehicle. I expect it from family and friends who've never driven much less researched the vehicle....but from the press. Sheeesh. |
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| Don't Wait Until Tomorrow Join Date: Sep 2005 Location: South Florida
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My Car: 2006 Prius Package: #8 Nominated 0 Times in 0 Posts TOTM Awards: 0 Friends: 0 | <div class='quotetop'>QUOTE(Prianista @ Sep 2 2006, 09:12 PM) [snapback]313290[/snapback]</div> Quote:
This "expert" author also seems confused (especially if she "needed instructions repeated more than once"to start the second Prius she's owned). In any event, I did a "cut and paste" of "hdrygas'" 11/17/05 Acronyms and Abbreviations posting of the Electronic Control Unit (ECU) section that describes the following 15 (14 without Navigation) Prius computer control units: 1. HV ECU High Voltage ECU This is the brains of the HSD receiving and sending signals from all parts of the HSD turning driver request (shift, accelerator, break) into action by parts of the HSD system. 2. ECM Engine Module controls the ICE (spark, fuel injection, valve timing etc) delivering the proper amount of power to the system under direction of the HV ECU and informs HV ECU of ICE state. 3. Transmission ECU after receiving On signal from HV ECU monitors the Parking Switch (button) and when pressed it locks the hybrid trans axle and locks when brake is pressed and car is placed in D, R, N 4. Skid Control ECU Controls regenerative brake effect by MG2 and the hydraulic system to mimic a conventional hydraulic system as well as functions of Brake Assist, ABS (Antilock Brake System) and VSC (Vehicle Stability Control) 5. ECB ECU = Electronically Controlled Brake integrated into the Skid control ECU to calculate required brake force based on peddle effort and force. 6. EPS ECU = Electronic Power Steering ECU controls the power assist to steering column calculated from input from the Skid Control ECU and various sensors 7. Battery ECU monitors the SOC (State Of Charge) and battery temperature communicates with the HV ECU and controls the HV battery cooling fan. 8. Power Source Control ECU Controls the push button start system receives signals from switches and ECUs communicates to the HV ECU power on power off 9. Air Conditioning ECU calculates the compressor speed based on input from sensors using a nonlinear fuzzy logic system controls blower speed 10. Meter ECU Transmits vehicle speed signal, receives information if smart key is in vehicle and sound the warning sound in car on request of other ECUs (the source of the annoying beeps) 11. Body ECU receives door lock and unlock request and monitors if smart key is in vehicle transmits this to Smart ECU over a serial connection. 12. Transponder ECU Controls the HV immobilizer by recognizing the key ID code also works with Smart ECU in cars equipped with SKS. Transmits an HV stat authorization to the HV ECU 13. Smart ECU Checks ID code received from wireless transponders in the car and transmits the code to the Transponder ECU 14. Navigation ECU provides navigational features as well as Voice recognition and Bluetooth connection. 15. Gateway ECU provides communication between the 3 LANs (Local Area Network)
__________________ Vincent_________________________________ 2006 Silver Prius - Mats, Splashguards, Rear Bumper Protector, Trim Rings Removed, Rear Wiper Modification, Coastal EV Mod, Coastal Lockpick 3, 185/65 ComforTreads & Chrome Tire Valve Caps 2007 Lexus ES 350 (Purchased aftermarket Navigation without Toyota lockout controls) | |
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| running WOT until out of fuel Join Date: Mar 2005 Location: central NC/ western WI
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My Car: 2005 Prius Package: #5 Nominated 5 Times in 3 Posts TOTM Awards: 0 Friends: 21 | i think the author not only spread a bunch of false information, but made herself look like one real dumbass in the process. that was written at the 3rd grade level. |
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| Don't Wait Until Tomorrow Join Date: Sep 2005 Location: South Florida
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My Car: 2006 Prius Package: #8 Nominated 0 Times in 0 Posts TOTM Awards: 0 Friends: 0 | <div class='quotetop'>QUOTE(SW03ES @ Sep 4 2006, 11:08 AM) [snapback]313974[/snapback]</div> Quote:
========== Vincent, Thanks for your email, and all your corrections. Actually, I had intended my column's coverage of the Prius to be more about how computer technology is infiltrating all aspects of our lives, rather than an in depth column about Prius cars. I guess I focused too much on the Prius to make my overall message clear. The information I included in my column was from talking with people at the Toyota dealership (I specifically asked them about the 40 computers claim and disabling the reverse noise) and reading the owners manual. The column was intended to be aimed at ordinary car owners, not high-level Prius enthusiasts. However, I see from your email (and other enthusiasts) that some of the information I was given is not correct, and for that I apologize, and will suggest some corrections be made to the column. So, thanks for your time gathering and sending me so much information. Best, Linda ========== I see I wasn't the only Prius owner to write. I hope she does make some corrections to her column and sticks to computers next time! | |
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| Senior Member Join Date: Feb 2004 Location: Roy, Washington and Nanaimo, Canada
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My Car: 2006 Prius Package: #4 Nominated 0 Times in 0 Posts TOTM Awards: 0 Friends: 0 | Even if she makes the corrections it will be too late for the many potential buyers that will decide that the Prius is too complicated and temperamental. Much damage is done by these '? journalists?'. Many people have made statements to me about not wanting a Prius because they read about all the problems that will happen. Bad batteries, electrocutions of technicians, etc. |
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