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Old 09-15-2006, 05:20 PM   #1
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all of my other cars (audi, mercedes, saab) allow me to disable VSC except the prius VSC greatly inhibits my ability to take a corner at any moderately fast but still safe rate of speed. Does anyone know how I can disable VSC?

my benz, saab and audi allow allow me to turn it off.
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Old 09-15-2006, 06:16 PM   #2
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Are you sure it's not the traction control you're referring to? It's tough to get the VSC to kick in, but pretty common for TRAC to come on when the car feels it's slipping on the road...
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Old 09-15-2006, 06:17 PM   #3
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I believe the reason you can't disable VSC or TRAC on the Prius is that the hybrid system is very prone to damage if the wheels are alowed to spin for any legnth of time (such as being stuck in the snow).

As for the VSC being obtrusive when driving normally, that hasn't been my experience. In fact, I've never seen the VSC activate in the Prius or in my Lexus except a very few times in the rain or in the snow. I'm a pretty spirited driver too.

I think you may be expecting too much of your Prius, its not a BMW or an Audi.
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<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE(sc_trojan @ Sep 15 2006, 05:20 PM) [snapback]320257[/snapback]</div>
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all of my other cars (audi, mercedes, saab) allow me to disable VSC except the prius VSC greatly inhibits my ability to take a corner at any moderately fast but still safe rate of speed. Does anyone know how I can disable VSC?

my benz, saab and audi allow allow me to turn it off.
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I recently saw a report on GMA that cited VSC as being the most important safety feature since seat belts and that all cars will be required to have it by 2010.
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Old 09-15-2006, 07:06 PM   #5
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<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE(Rancid13 @ Sep 15 2006, 03:16 PM) [snapback]320268[/snapback]</div>
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Are you sure it's not the traction control you're referring to? It's tough to get the VSC to kick in, but pretty common for TRAC to come on when the car feels it's slipping on the road...
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You may be right, it may not be the VSC, but the traction control. I assumed it was the same thing. All I know is when I go around corners at a moderate rate of speed, the power cuts. I would like the option to turn on/off that functionality.

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I think you may be expecting too much of your Prius, its not a BMW or an Audi.
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I know it isnt a sports car. Maybe thats why I upgraded to the TC 17" wheels to help....
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Traction control detects slippage in the drive wheels and retards power and/or applies brakes.

Stability control detects yaw movement.

The problem is that you can't disable TRAC because it's there to protect the electric motors from overspinning.

Also, even though there's a ESP OFF button, it may not be completely off.
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You may be right, it may not be the VSC, but the traction control. I assumed it was the same thing. All I know is when I go around corners at a moderate rate of speed, the power cuts. I would like the option to turn on/off that functionality.
I know it isnt a sports car. Maybe thats why I upgraded to the TC 17" wheels to help....
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If the car is beeping at you in an unsupportable manner, then it's VSC. If it isn't then it's the blasted traction control.....

But I do agree with you, I don't understand why you can't deactivate the VSC like in everyother car on the road.
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You may be right, it may not be the VSC, but the traction control. I assumed it was the same thing. All I know is when I go around corners at a moderate rate of speed, the power cuts.[/b]
Before you cut VSC/TC, maybe you can see what else you can fix first. Blinking lights with a "ding" is VSC.

First, are you using grippier/better tires better than the standard crappy Integrities (must be with the 17" TCs wheels)? Then in Initial-D lingo, if you got TC cutting in on your turns, your foot is already too heavy and the TC/VSC is telling you got no more extra traction to squeeze out of the turn as well as preventing pretty, black smoke trails.

If you're looking to drift in a Prius, you shouldn't as it's FF, and next maybe there's accelerator foot moderation techniques to keep the wheels spinning at the same speeds on the turn to trick TC/VSC to let you drift a little right at the edge of grip vs drift driving.

In order to be a "godfoot", I try to moderate my foot technique so I'm making the wheels spin at the correct speed for the turn I'm taking to avoid loosing traction to begin with. Many a times, I've taken a long turn at 0.8Gs (the G-Tech RR's red light starts blinking) which is about the maximum for my tire grip. Of course adding any more power to the traction wheels at that point tips out traction and then TC cuts in.

I've learned to either brake earlier so I get more spare traction Gs for pulling out of the turn, or oversteer more into the turn and ease into the accelerator as I countersteer out of the turn. Both work fairly well for me to maximize the turns so I can rarely get TC cutout on turns I'm very familiar with; just chirping, or light squealing instead, on these 15" Yokohama AVIDs.
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Defeating the VSC or the Trac control has been discussed many times on this forum. It can lead to serious damage to the Hybrid drive system It can't be done and it shouldn't be done.
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Defeating the VSC or the Trac control has been discussed many times on this forum. It can lead to serious damage to the Hybrid drive system It can't be done and it shouldn't be done.
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That certainly doesn't negate the point that it's annoying to him. I'd like to know whether it's VSC or TC that is causing the prob......... Myself, I didn't buy VSC for a reason.
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