good riddence

[etyler88]

If you don't want a car that costs $20 bucks in gas a month, will need no brake, alternator or timing belt work for 200K miles or more, is comfortable, reliable and neat then fine fulfill your nutty car needs somewhere else.

[dionmonge]

<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE(etyler88 @ Feb 17 2007, 08:50 PM) [snapback]392184[/snapback]</div>

If you don't want a car that costs $20 bucks in gas a month, will need no brake, alternator or timing belt work for 200K miles or more, is comfortable, reliable and neat then fine fulfill your nutty car needs somewhere else.
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i am nowhere near thinking about trading in my Prius since I recently bought one. I am replying to say that I have not heard that you can go 200,000 miles+ w/o brake, alternator, or timing belt work. When you say it costs you $20 a month it makes me wonder how much you drive??? Is your post a joke?

[efusco]

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If you don't want a car that costs $20 bucks in gas a month, will need no brake, alternator or timing belt work for 200K miles or more, is comfortable, reliable and neat then fine fulfill your nutty car needs somewhere else. [/b]

If I may, I think the 'point' the OP rather ineloquently tried to make is that some of the threads recently from people who are getting rid of the Prius have been more or less 'sour grapes' posts and the reasons stated for getting rid of the car are a bit illogical or silly. One guy's getting rid of his b/c his head 'snapped' more than he thinks it should have in a low speed collision. One guy had what sounds like a real lemon and now has an irrational bias against not only the Prius but also Toyota, and Japan, and pretty much anything west of California and East of New York.



While I understand the OP's point, I think it's a bit unfair to those who tried and chose not to keep a Prius. It isn't a perfect car. It doesn't suit everyone's needs. While it's good points are pretty clear, sometimes a bushel of good points isn't enough to balance a handful of annoyances. It's unreasonable to expect that the Prius would suit everyone's needs and desires in a car. And just b/c it doesn't suit those needs and desires does not make those individuals or their needs/desires "nutty".

[Tempus]

Even the most popular car in the world has a 'would buy again' rate less than 100%. Even that car is going to be completely wrong for someone, and they probably won't like it. That's life.

The Prius has one of the highest satisfaction and 'would purchase again' percentages of any car out there, but at least several out of every hundred owners are not going to be happy, for whatever reason.

I just hope the Prii they turn in find happy homes because every Prius deserves to be loved Just like everyone deserves to have a car that they like.

[LazyBear]

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fulfill your nutty car needs somewhere else.
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I thought "this should be good enough for everyone" ended with the fall of the communism. Apparently not.

[Bill Merchant]

I can understand etyler88's point though. This is PriusChat, not IHateMyPriusChat. If someone doesn't like their Prius, that's too bad, and like Evan said, no one car is right for everybody.

But if you hate your Prius, or even if it doesn't give you two temperature zones and that's enough to make you trade, just do it. Go quietly. Stop yammering. Delete your membership. Most of us here LOVE our Prius. And that's OFFICIAL!

[efusco]

<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE(Bill Merchant @ Feb 17 2007, 11:53 PM) [snapback]392255[/snapback]</div>

I can understand etyler88's point though. This is PriusChat, not IHateMyPriusChat. If someone doesn't like their Prius, that's too bad, and like Evan said, no one car is right for everybody.

But if you hate your Prius, or even if it doesn't give you two tempeature zones and that's enough to make you trade, just do it. Go quietly. Stop yammering. Delete your membership. Most of us here LOVE our Prius. And that's OFFICIAL! [/b]

I'll just say that I think there's a good way and a bad way to give a 'so long'. Some of our members have gone through a journey in deciding whether to get a Prius or not. They've had problems or adventures and come here for help or to share their stories. Maybe they had a 4th kid or got a job requireing a pick-up truck. I like hearing from those folks....the "Thanks for the help and info but.....".



If you're bitter and angry and being irrational you can still make your post, and maybe we shouldn't get as upset as we do, but it's like someone telling you your kid is ugly and dumb...you can know they're neither of those things but it still makes you angry that someone would think that way or say those things. I think we, Prius loyalists to the core, need to have thick skin about it and realize that those people just need to vent or have issues or both. I don't like it. I don't invite it. I'd rather they went on their merry way and just did their bad mouthing on the BMW boards after they get their fancy 5-series or whatever.

[jimmyrose]

I think Evan's got a point about having a thick skin. Eleanor Roosevelt said, "No one can make you feel inferior without your consent". This is a questionable analogy, to be sure, since it deals more with self-esteem than what you own, but the deeper point here is that some things do not need to be defended. Some of the responses to the "sour grapes" posts (which seem, laughably, like insecure parting shots) are VERY defensive - some people seem not to be defending the car, but their own choice for buying it.

It seems these posts get way too much defensive engagement, whereas a simple "so long, good luck", would be a higher path to take. It's human nature to want validation for your decisions, but it seems silly to continue to attack the OP's who may no longer even be there, or worse, just trolling.

There has been at least one post of this theme lately that was very honorable, thanking everyone for their advice and info, detailing his/her reasons for not going the Prius way (without trashing it), and wishing everyone well. That poster received some great responses, more indicative of the Prius community philosophy by large, IMO. It would be nice if they were all like this, but they won't be.

I typically don't respond to any of these, because if they're negative, better to let them go and be done with them. If they're positive (which usually includes a thank-you for all the advice they've received on PC) I'd feel like a hypocrit since my contributions to the PC information database to date has been minimal.

[Meerkat]

I think it’s called misplaced aggression. Maybe they choose to vent here because they feel no one else has listened to them? Unfortunately, we’re a captive audience here -- so we listen to their tirades (whether we want to or not).

I wish them the best. Go buy a Hummer if that’s what makes you happy.

[john1701a]

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There has been at least one post of this theme lately that was very honorable, thanking everyone for...[/b]

It becomes fairly obvious after awhile. Placing focus on credibility and making it personal, rather than placing attention only on facts, clearly reveals true intent. Using the "thick skin" armor to respond with just facts pretty much works under any conditions. It's ok to state them.

Sometimes, people would rather end the troublesome thread immediately rather than just let it take its course. They tend to burn out fairly quick if the discussion is kept constructive.