Energy Screen Arrows

jmccord · 03-11-2007, 01:14 AM

Well after 16,000 miles on the Prius, I'm starting to lose faith in the arrows on the Energy Screen.
Is it just me, or does the ICE sometimes run with no indication arrows? I have a 2006, and I'm accustomed to seeing orange colored arrows showing power from the engine to wheels and/or battery, but sometimes even with no arrows, I'd swear the ICE is running.
Curious to know the internal algorithm, or the experience of other users with the energy screen.
Is it really an accurate representation of what's going on?

Oops.
Guess this question was already addressed here:
http://priuschat.com/index.php?showtopic=30256

**Tideland Prius** · 03-11-2007, 04:30 PM

Yep. If the engine isn't powering the wheels, it won't show.

ServoScanMan · 03-25-2007, 11:34 PM

I have the same 'problem' with my 06. I wish the display would actually show realtime status as to ICE running or shut down. It took me a few weeks to realize the ICE runs with no indication.

Bill Merchant · 03-25-2007, 11:49 PM

But when the ICE is running with no indication on the Energy screen, it's probably just running to heat the coolant or catalytic converter, not contributing to charge of the HV battery or motive power. It's mostly regen that gets the HV battery into the green, the battery ECU likes to maintain a 60% charge. The programming for the ICE is low emissions first.

qbee42 · 03-26-2007, 10:14 AM

Bill is right on the money, as usual. What would help people is having an ICE ON indicator on the display, instead of just an energy flow indication.

Tom

Ichabod · 03-26-2007, 10:19 AM

I've been migrating away from the energy monitor screen in my daily driving actually... I find that it's usually too much information, and I wouldn't want to know too much about the state of the engine.

As I've gotten to know fairly well how to get into "glide," the only other important thing for me to see is the instantaneous MPG readout, which is easier to be aware of with the bar in the consumption screen. I don't even have to look directly at it because I can see that big yellow bar from the corner of my eye.

If you really, really want to know that stuff though, there's always CAN-view!

hill · 03-26-2007, 10:30 AM

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Bill is right on the money, as usual. What would help people is having an ICE ON indicator on the display, instead of just an energy flow indication.

Tom
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Maybe also a parenthetical stating, 'but even so ... the ice is still spinning' :P

03-11-2007, 01:14 AM	#1
jmccord Join Date: Nov 2005 Location: San Diego, CA, Earth Posts: 199 My Car: Package: Nominated 0 Times in 0 Posts TOTM Awards: 0 Friends: 0	Well after 16,000 miles on the Prius, I'm starting to lose faith in the arrows on the Energy Screen. Is it just me, or does the ICE sometimes run with no indication arrows? I have a 2006, and I'm accustomed to seeing orange colored arrows showing power from the engine to wheels and/or battery, but sometimes even with no arrows, I'd swear the ICE is running. Curious to know the internal algorithm, or the experience of other users with the energy screen. Is it really an accurate representation of what's going on? Oops. Guess this question was already addressed here: http://priuschat.com/index.php?showtopic=30256 __________________ 2006 Classic Silver Metallic, Pkg 8. Ordered 11/10/05. Received 3/17/06. Paid MSRP. Mods: Llumar window tint (50% front, 35% rear), Fumoto oil drain valve, BT Stiffening Plate, Radio Shack EV button, rear cargo net, rear bumper protector, wheel rings removed, Priuschat.com sticker, San Diego Prius Club brake light sticker, all door locks enabled, and back-up beep silenced. Tire Pressure: 42F/40R. Cumulative mileage - about 16,000 miles.

03-26-2007, 10:19 AM	#6
Ichabod Artist In Residence Join Date: Jul 2006 Location: Newton, MA Posts: 1,630 My Car: 2006 Prius Package: #7 Nominated 0 Times in 0 Posts TOTM Awards: 0 Friends: 6	I've been migrating away from the energy monitor screen in my daily driving actually... I find that it's usually too much information, and I wouldn't want to know too much about the state of the engine. As I've gotten to know fairly well how to get into "glide," the only other important thing for me to see is the instantaneous MPG readout, which is easier to be aware of with the bar in the consumption screen. I don't even have to look directly at it because I can see that big yellow bar from the corner of my eye. If you really, really want to know that stuff though, there's always CAN-view! __________________ 2006 Barcelona Red Metallic - a.k.a. "The Professor" :: Accessories/Mods :: BT Tech Stiffening Plate - Engine Block Heater - OEM EV button - OEM Mud guards - Rear Bumper Protector :: Near-future :: ScangaugeII

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03-11-2007, 04:30 PM	#2
Tideland Prius Super Moderator Join Date: Oct 2004 Location: Canada Posts: 13,397 My Car: 2005 Prius Package: B Nominated 0 Times in 0 Posts TOTM Awards: 0 Friends: 11	Yep. If the engine isn't powering the wheels, it won't show.

03-25-2007, 11:34 PM	#3
ServoScanMan Senior Member Join Date: Apr 2006 Location: Lorena, TX Posts: 232 My Car: 2006 Prius Package: #1 Nominated 0 Times in 0 Posts TOTM Awards: 0 Friends: 0	I have the same 'problem' with my 06. I wish the display would actually show realtime status as to ICE running or shut down. It took me a few weeks to realize the ICE runs with no indication.

03-25-2007, 11:49 PM	#4
Bill Merchant absit invidia Join Date: May 2005 Location: USA \| Oregon \| Portland area \| 97004 \| Posts: 3,925 My Car: 2007 Prius Package: #5 Nominated 6 Times in 1 Post TOTM Awards: 1 Friends: 47	But when the ICE is running with no indication on the Energy screen, it's probably just running to heat the coolant or catalytic converter, not contributing to charge of the HV battery or motive power. It's mostly regen that gets the HV battery into the green, the battery ECU likes to maintain a 60% charge. The programming for the ICE is low emissions first.

03-26-2007, 10:14 AM	#5
qbee42 Senior Member Join Date: Mar 2006 Location: Northern Michigan Posts: 4,890 My Car: 2006 Prius Package: #7 Nominated 0 Times in 0 Posts TOTM Awards: 0 Friends: 5	Bill is right on the money, as usual. What would help people is having an ICE ON indicator on the display, instead of just an energy flow indication. Tom