Free Energy for Prius Cars

[rsforkner]

OK, we all know that all of the energy used in a stock Prius comes from gasoline, right? Well I figured out how to change that.

First, you have to get to Denver. (Note that how you got there is irrelevant here.) Maybe you already live there.

Now drive to San Francisco. Over the course of the trip you should gain approximately 5,000 feet of energy. If you are moving to San Francisco so much the better.

Of course like anything that is free, there is a catch. You must never return to Denver. Doing so will use all of the free energy you have in the bank.

There you have it, free energy, less any internal losses.

Of course, this would be true for any coastal destination.

Enjoy the trip,
Bob

[efusco]

All except there's that energy getting to Denver in the first place...you can temporarily gain energy in a million scenarios...but the net will never be a gain.

[rsforkner]

Originally Posted by efusco

All except there's that energy getting to Denver in the first place...you can temporarily gain energy in a million scenarios...but the net will never be a gain.

True, but the original premise states "(Note that how you got there is irrelevant here.)". Also "you can never return". It is also possible that you were born in Denver or walked. Lots of people did in the 1800s.

Of course in the grand scheme of the universe the energy came from someplace. As long as it didn't come from dino fuel it can be considered free, for this exercise.

Bob
Note that I have no plans to implement this plan...

[TonyPSchaefer]

Originally Posted by efusco

All except there's that energy getting to Denver in the first place...

Stop yer whining and get back there and push!

[qbee42]

Originally Posted by rsforkner

True, but the original premise states "(Note that how you got there is irrelevant here.)". Also "you can never return". It is also possible that you were born in Denver or walked. Lots of people did in the 1800s.

Of course in the grand scheme of the universe the energy came from someplace. As long as it didn't come from dino fuel it can be considered free, for this exercise.

Bob
Note that I have no plans to implement this plan...

But the energy did come from dino fuel. All transportation into Denver uses dino fuel. Even if you were born in Denver, your Prius didn't spontaneously appear there, so the transportation to that altitude required dino fuel.

I know you are only being silly with this idea, but trying to defend it is beyond silly.

Tom

[rsforkner]

Originally Posted by qbee42

I know you are only being silly with this idea, but trying to defend it is beyond silly.

Tom

Thanks Tom, I GIVE UP!

I mostly hoped that someone would smile a little while reading this thread.

Bob

[Sheepdog]

back during the early 70's I was in Denver to get some tech schooling into a new career field AFSC after the injury. The people of Denver were very rude crude anti military and hateful to me in uniform.

I will never go back there. I realise it was the political wave of the time but I took it personally when I was spit on. I could have given my life for their right to hate my uniform and me. I accept that but never have liked it and never will forget it.

[rsforkner]

Originally Posted by Sheepdog

back during the early 70's I was in Denver to get some tech schooling into a new career field AFSC after the injury. The people of Denver were very rude crude anti military and hateful to me in uniform.

I will never go back there. I realise it was the political wave of the time but I took it personally when I was spit on. I could have given my life for their right to hate my uniform and me. I accept that but never have liked it and never will forget it.

So sorry for your experience. I came back from Vietnam in '67. Things were a little better then, but as I started my carrier I could see things were turning. I often avoided telling people that I had been in Vietnam simply to avoid some of the ugly things people were doing and saying.

I truly hope that our men in service do not have to experience those kinds of actions today. I fear, however, that there are still pockets of ignorance out there. I just don't understand why people can't, or refuse to separate the politics from the reality.

I guess is it's the same kind of people who yell at the poor girl at the checkout because the prices are too high when they should be talking to the manager. Maybe they are afraid to confront those who have the power to change things.

Bob

[Jiipa]

Welcome home Brothers.

Nam 65-66 and 69-70. Had to snuck out the back gate of Camp Pendleton when I came back in 70 due to the protesters.

[Code Blue]

That's why they call it the West "Coast."