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Old 07-29-2008, 09:13 AM   #11
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Use the "space saver" spare, how often do you get a flat tyre?
If you are fully loaded put some of the load on a passenger's lap while you drive to a repairer on the space saver. Good chance you will never need to.

By the way, here is Australia donuts are a food item. They are a round deep fried cake with a hole in the middle. Never use one as a spare tyre.
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Old 07-29-2008, 11:04 AM   #12
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It is actually more likely to get a flat in rain. The reason is the water acts as a lubricant to the tire cutting item/nail/screw. It's actually very difficult to puncture a modern tire in the dry, which is why it happens so infrequently.

Case in point, over the years I have seen people drive over glass beverage bottles. So far, in the dry, I've never seen it cause a flat, but in the wet, it's 50/50 (the bottles almost always shatter wet or dry).

At any rate, if you want to use a full size spare, you have to carry it deflated (as posted above). Which also means you have to carry a pump. Or you could just carry a can of "fix a flat" (the Mazda RX-8 comes this way).

You still have the original wheels with the tire pressure monitor sensors? Don't fret if they stole the OEM tires, they aren't worth much.
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Old 07-29-2008, 11:10 AM   #13
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It wasn't you experiencing a newbie moment. It was the dealer guy experiencing whatever it is that they experience. No spare well is sized to fit a full size wheel if the car comes with a donut. What would be the point in wasting all that space?
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Old 07-29-2008, 11:18 AM   #14
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Not to mention the ding on fuel economy that would come from carrying a full-sized spare around for a hundred thousand miles, or the added bother of wrestling with two full-sized wheels if the driver ever needs to do a swap on the road.
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Old 07-29-2008, 11:45 AM   #15
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Likewise the odds go up pretty fast during heavy rain or slushy days, especially if you are wearing dress clothes.

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How true! The one time I had a flat on the interstate (knock on wood!), I was wearing a dress, it was raining, and I had my elderly mother and her friend in the car with me. Thankfully, we could see an auto shop nearby on the access road, so I carefully drove through the ditch to get there, and the guys changed the tire for me.

My last flat happened just before I got into town on a back road, and I was able to drive slowly to a nearby tire dealer without any damage to the tire.

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Old 07-29-2008, 12:55 PM   #16
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By the way, here is Australia donuts are a food item. They are a round deep fried cake with a hole in the middle. Never use one as a spare tyre.
Oh great, just brilliant. Now my tummy is rumbling
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Old 07-29-2008, 03:21 PM   #17
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This situation is a well understood and vaguely documented law of nature: If you carry a well maintained spare tire, odds are that you will never need it. However, the day you remove your spare tire (and/or tire jack), the probability of tire failure increases radically.

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Old 07-29-2008, 04:10 PM   #18
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True, Tony, although the odds of selective probability say that the chances of having a flat increase dramatically if you have no room to carry a flat. Likewise the odds go up pretty fast during heavy rain or slushy days, especially if you are wearing dress clothes.

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lol.... it's only funny 'cause it's true.... The last time I had to change a tire was on the side of a VERY BUSY freeway in the pouring rain wearing nice clothes... Now of course I have roadside assistance on my ins. Won't be doing that EVER again.
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Old 07-29-2008, 05:17 PM   #19
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Default Re: That ******* spare wheel

i transported a flat today by removing the top of the luggage box cover (the hatch floor) and dumping the wheel in there.

normally i have a blanket i keep in the back for messy things, but it's currently in use elsewhere.
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This situation is a well understood and vaguely documented law of nature: If you carry a well maintained spare tire, odds are that you will never need it. However, the day you remove your spare tire (and/or tire jack), the probability of tire failure increases radically.

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This is actually one of the infinite variations on Murphy's Law!
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